Mean value of energy <E> for a QM state?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mean value of energy for a quantum mechanical state represented by a superposition of eigenstates. The Hamiltonian is given, and participants are tasked with finding and the root mean square deviation from measurements of energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of using eigenvalues and probabilities associated with the quantum states. There are attempts to clarify the correct application of normalization and the treatment of the identity operator in the context of mean values.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the calculations, questioning the necessity of dividing by two in the context of mean values. Multiple interpretations of the calculations are being explored, particularly regarding the normalization of the state and the computation of and

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Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the normalization of the quantum state and the implications for calculating mean values. Participants are also addressing potential misunderstandings regarding the treatment of eigenvalues in the context of quantum mechanics.

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Homework Statement


If the system is in a state

|ψ> = 1/sqrt(6) |v1> + 1/sqrt(3) |v2> - i/sqrt(2) |v3>

with Hamiltonian satisfying H|vj> = (2-j)a|vj>

Find the mean value of energy <E> and the root mean square deviation √(<E2> - <E>2 ) that would result from making a number of measurements of the energy of the system in state |ψ>

Homework Equations


<E> = <ψ|E|ψ>

for a free particle E = p2 / 2m

The Attempt at a Solution


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To find the mean value of Energy <E> is it just eigenvalues (a, 0 -a) multiplied by the probability of it being in the corresponding state P = (1/6, 1/3, 1/2)?

= a/6 - a/2 = -2a/6.
For E2 then do you just have the same, but the eigenvalues squared multiplied by the probabilities?
 
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except divide the energy by two? as its a mean, so it would be -a/6 ?
 
Why divide by 2 ? What would be the mean value for the identity operator 1 ?
 
BvU said:
Why divide by 2 ? What would be the mean value for the identity operator 1 ?
1, so do you just find the mean of the eigenvalues? So 0...
 
For the identity operator you get ##\ {1\over 6} + {1\over 3} + {(-i^*)(-i)\over 2} = 1 \ ##. No dividing by 2. The state is properly normalized.

For <H> you get ##\ {1\over 6} (a) + {1\over 3} (0) + {(-i^*)(-i)\over 2} (-a) = {\displaystyle -a\over 3} \ ## as you did. No dividing by 2 either.

So for <H2> ...
 

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