Probability Density in an infinite 1D square well

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The discussion revolves around the probability density of a particle confined in an infinite one-dimensional square well, specifically analyzing the wave function and its implications for probability density calculations. The problem involves determining the number of values of x for which the probability density equals a specific value and finding the largest such value.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the wave function and probability density, with attempts to solve for specific values of x where the probability density equals 5 nm-1. Questions arise regarding the integration process and the distinction between probability and probability density.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, emphasizing the need to find specific values of x rather than integrating. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the concepts involved, and a participant has indicated a realization about their previous misunderstanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention discrepancies in their calculations, specifically regarding powers of ten, and express the need for clarification on the number of solutions to the probability density equation. There is a reference to plotting the function to visualize the solutions.

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Homework Statement


The wave function of a particle of mass m confined in an infinite one-dimensional square well of width L = 0.23 nm, is:
ψ(x) = (2/L)1/2 sin(3πx/L) for 0 < x < L

ψ(x) = 0 everywhere else. The energy of the particle in this state is E = 63.974 eV.

1) What is the rest energy (mc2) of the particle?
ANS: 511133.6 ev

2) P(x) is the probability density.
That is, P(x)dx is the probability that the particle is between x and x+dx when dx is small.
For how many values of x does P(x) = 5 nm-1?
ANS: 6 values of x

3)What is the largest value of x for which P(x) = 5 nm-1?
ANS: ?

Homework Equations


P(x)=∫|ψ(x)|2dx

E=h2n2/(8mL2)

The Attempt at a Solution


For question 2 i only know its 6 because the question was multiple attempts. i don't know how to get that answer mathematically. I thought that by integrating P(x) squared and then solving for the x's would give me the 6 values of x but its not making sense to me. After i have the 6 values, then the answer to question 3 is just the largest value of x.
 
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gv3 said:
For how many values of x does P(x) = 5 nm-1?
You have all you need.
P(x)dx= ψ*ψ dx = (2/L) sin2(3πx/L)dx
Solve
P(x) = 5 nm-1
 
kuruman said:
You have all you need.
P(x)dx= ψ*ψ dx = (2/L) sin2(3πx/L)dx
Solve
P(x) = 5 nm-1

so set the integral equal to 5nm-1 right?
 
After integrating i get 5=(x/L)-(1/6π)sin(6πx/L) How do you even solve for x?
 
You don't integrate.. If you integrate x drops out and you get just a number, i.e. the probability that the particle be found within the limits of integration. You need to find at what values of x the probability density[/color] has the given value. It looks like you are confusing "probability" with "probability density". They are not the same.
 
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kuruman said:
You don't integrate.. If you integrate x drops out and you get just a number, i.e. the probability that the particle be found within the limits of integration. You need to find at what values of x the probability density has the given value. It looks like you are confusing "probability" with "probability density". They are not the same.
Ok I got it. Thank you. The answer was .21 nm. Originally when I first solved it I got .021nm and the homework said I was off by a power of ten. Do you know why it could be off? Also could you explain to me why question 2 is 6 values of x
 
gv3 said:
Do you know why it could be off?
Not unless you reproduce and show me what you did.
gv3 said:
Also could you explain to me why question 2 is 6 values of x
Plot P(x) as a function of x from 0 to L and you will see.
 
kuruman said:
You have all you need.
P(x)dx= ψ*ψ dx = (2/L) sin2(3πx/L)dx
Solve
P(x) = 5 nm-1
I solved this and couldn't get 6. i tried with my calculator in radians and degrees.
 
Here is the plot of P(x) vs. x. Note that the 5 nm-1 line crosses the plot at 6 points.

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kuruman said:
Here is the plot of P(x) vs. x. Note that the 5 nm-1 line crosses the plot at 6 points.

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Ah ok. I was graphing the wrong thing. Thanks for helping me! Sorry for the confusion.
 

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