Mean Value Theorem and Rolle's Theorem: Conditions and Examples

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The discussion revolves around the Mean Value Theorem and Rolle's Theorem, particularly focusing on their conditions and applications. The original poster presents two parts: the first part relates to the conditions of Rolle's Theorem, while the second part questions whether the function |x| satisfies these conditions on a specified interval.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the conditions under which Rolle's Theorem applies, particularly questioning the implications of differentiability and continuity. There is also a discussion about the application of the Mean Value Theorem in relation to the original poster's statements.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, with some providing clarifications and others questioning the definitions and implications of the theorems. There is a recognition that the first part of the original poster's question aligns with Rolle's Theorem, and participants are exploring whether the conditions for the second part are met.

Contextual Notes

There is some uncertainty regarding the continuity of functions defined on intervals and the implications of differentiability. The original poster's question about the absolute value function introduces a specific case that may challenge the assumptions of the theorems discussed.

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Homework Statement
a. If f is defined on an interval [x,y], its differentiable on open interval (x,y), and f(x)=f(y) then there is a number c in (x,y) where f'(c)=0

b. Does the absolute value of x, |x|, satisfy Rolle's Theorem on [-1, 1]?

The attempt at a solution

For the first one, I'm not really sure.

But for the second, I believe it does not satisfy. Because when x =0 on the interval, it is not differentiable.
 
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Your answer for b is ccorrect. For the first one are you allowed to use the mean value theorem? If so then you might try aplying it to this problem.
 
Well the Mean Value Theorem does not mention anything about f(x)=f(y)... so that's why I'm not sure. Is there some other theorem out there that can justify this?

Edit: Oh nevermind, I believe it's Rolle's theorem.
 
What does the mean value theorem say?
 
Let f be continuous on a closed interval [a, b] and differentiable on the open interval (a, b). If f(a) = f(b), then there is at least one point c in (a, b) where f '(c) = 0.

The question says, "If f is defined," does that necessarily mean that f is continuous?
 
Oops, Sorry that was not MVT. MVT states that if f is continuous on the closed interval [a,b] and differentiable on the open interval (a,b) then there is a number c in (a,b) such that f(b)−f(a)=f′(c)(b−a).
 
2RIP said:
The question says, "If f is defined," does that necessarily mean that f is continuous?

No, but f is differentiable and differetiability implies continuity.
 
Part (a) states Rolle's Theorem exactly. So, if you just want to know if this is true, then the answer is yes. Or do you have to prove it? What exactly are you trying to find out?
 

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