Mean Value Theorem/Rolle's Theorem and differentiability

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The discussion revolves around the Mean Value Theorem and Rolle's Theorem, specifically analyzing the function f(x) = 1 - x2/3. The original poster seeks to understand why f(-1) equals f(1) while there is no number c in the interval (-1, 1) such that f'(c) equals 0, and how this situation relates to the conditions of Rolle's Theorem.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the differentiation of the function and question whether it satisfies the hypotheses of Rolle's Theorem. There is uncertainty about the differentiability of f(x) on the interval (-1, 1) and the implications of this for the theorem's application.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the conditions required for Rolle's Theorem to apply. Some participants are questioning the differentiability of the function and whether it meets the necessary criteria for the theorem.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential nondifferentiable points within the interval, which may affect the application of Rolle's Theorem. Participants are also reflecting on the implications of their calculations and interpretations of the derivative.

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Homework Statement


Let f(x) = 1 - x2/3. Show that f(-1) = f(1) but there is no number c in (-1,1) such that f'(c) = 0. Why does this not contradict Rolle's Theorem?

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The Attempt at a Solution


f(x) = 1 - x2/3.
f(-1) = 1 - 1 = 0
f(1) = 1 - 1 = 0

f' = 2/3 x -1/3.

I don't understand why this doesn't have a number c in f'(c), or why Rolle's theorem excludes nondifferentiable points?
 
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NanaToru said:

Homework Statement


Let f(x) = 1 - x2/3. Show that f(-1) = f(1) but there is no number c in (-1,1) such that f'(c) = 0. Why does this not contradict Rolle's Theorem?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


f(x) = 1 - x2/3.
f(-1) = 1 - 1 = 0
f(1) = 1 - 1 = 0

f' = 2/3 x -1/3.

I don't understand why this doesn't have a number c in f'(c), or why Rolle's theorem excludes nondifferentiable points?
For a function to violate Rolle's theorem, it would need to do two things:
1. Satisfy all the hypotheses of Rolle's theorem.
2. Fail to satisfy the conclusion of Rolle's theorem.

Does this function do those two things?
 
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Hm... I'm not sure it satisfies all the hypotheses--from what the back of the book says, it isn't differentiate on the interval of (-1, 1) but I'm not sure how? Did I do a bad job differentiating it?
 
What do you get for f'(0)?
 
Is it not 0? Or is that not a valid answer?
 
NanaToru said:
Is it not 0? Or is that not a valid answer?
If you think ##\frac 1 0 = 0## then you must also think ##0\cdot 0 = 1##?
 
...This is honestly the most embarrassing moment of my life. Thank you though!
 
NanaToru said:
...This is honestly the most embarrassing moment of my life. Thank you though!
Just wait!
 
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