Measurement problem quantum mechanics

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics measurement problem involving the spin state of an electron. The original poster presents a spin state expressed in terms of eigenstates of the z-component of spin and seeks to determine the probability of measuring a specific spin value.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express uncertainty regarding the appropriate formulas or methods to apply in this context. There are attempts to clarify the normalization of the state and the implications of measuring the spin component. Questions about the correct representation of the spin state are also raised.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints regarding the normalization process and the interpretation of measurement results, while others are questioning the formulation of the spin state. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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Participants note that answers within a 5% error margin are acceptable, and there is a mention of a potential error in the original expression of the spin state that may affect the discussion.

Ashish Somwanshi
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Homework Statement
Measurement

Suppose an electron is in a spin state that can be described by

|ϕ⟩=3/√2|+⟩+1/2|−⟩
where + and – are eigenstates of Sz with eigenvalue +ℏ/2 and −ℏ/2.

If we measure z-component of spin of this electron, what is the probability of measuring spin up, +ℏ/2?

Answers within 5% error will be considered correct.
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I myself want to know which formula we need to use.
I was not able to attempt since I don't know which formula or method can be used to solve the problem
 
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Ashish Somwanshi said:
Homework Statement:: Measurement

Suppose an electron is in a spin state that can be described by

|ϕ⟩=3/√2|+⟩+1/2|−⟩
where + and – are eigenstates of Sz with eigenvalue +ℏ/2 and −ℏ/2.

If we measure z-component of spin of this electron, what is the probability of measuring spin up, +ℏ/2?

Answers within 5% error will be considered correct.
Relevant Equations:: I myself want to know which formula we need to use.

I was not able to attempt since I don't know which formula or method can be used to solve the problem
First you need to normalize the state.

Hint 1: What does the result of operating ##S_z## mean?

Hint 2: Once you have that, how can you find the probability of finding the electron in the ##\mid + >## state?

-Dan
 
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Ashish Somwanshi said:
Homework Statement:: Measurement

Suppose an electron is in a spin state that can be described by

|ϕ⟩=3/√2|+⟩+1/2|−⟩
Is that supposed to be ##\frac {\sqrt 3}{2}\ket + + \frac 1 2 \ket -##?

(Otherwise there is a rogue square root in the denominator!)
 
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topsquark said:
First you need to normalize the state.

Hint 1: What does the result of operating ##S_z## mean?

Hint 2: Once you have that, how can you find the probability of finding the electron in the ##\mid + >## state?

-Dan
A quick note. I was looking at this wrong.

Correction:
Hint 1: How do we find the component of |+> from the ket?

Hint 2: How do we then find the probability it's in the |+> state from that?

-Dan
 
Born rule: the probability of measuring the system ##\ket{\psi}## in state ##\ket{\alpha}## is given by
$$
\mathcal{P}(\alpha) = \left| \braket{\alpha | \psi} \right|^2
$$
 
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