Measurement problem quantum mechanics

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The discussion focuses on calculating the probability of measuring the spin of an electron in a specific quantum state, represented as |ϕ⟩=3/√2|+⟩+1/2|−⟩. Participants emphasize the necessity of normalizing the state before applying the Born rule, which states that the probability of measuring the system in state |α⟩ is given by the square of the inner product, expressed mathematically as P(α) = |⟨α | ψ⟩|². The conversation highlights the importance of identifying the components of the spin states and correctly applying quantum mechanics principles to derive the solution.

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Homework Statement
Measurement

Suppose an electron is in a spin state that can be described by

|ϕ⟩=3/√2|+⟩+1/2|−⟩
where + and – are eigenstates of Sz with eigenvalue +ℏ/2 and −ℏ/2.

If we measure z-component of spin of this electron, what is the probability of measuring spin up, +ℏ/2?

Answers within 5% error will be considered correct.
Relevant Equations
I myself want to know which formula we need to use.
I was not able to attempt since I don't know which formula or method can be used to solve the problem
 
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Ashish Somwanshi said:
Homework Statement:: Measurement

Suppose an electron is in a spin state that can be described by

|ϕ⟩=3/√2|+⟩+1/2|−⟩
where + and – are eigenstates of Sz with eigenvalue +ℏ/2 and −ℏ/2.

If we measure z-component of spin of this electron, what is the probability of measuring spin up, +ℏ/2?

Answers within 5% error will be considered correct.
Relevant Equations:: I myself want to know which formula we need to use.

I was not able to attempt since I don't know which formula or method can be used to solve the problem
First you need to normalize the state.

Hint 1: What does the result of operating ##S_z## mean?

Hint 2: Once you have that, how can you find the probability of finding the electron in the ##\mid + >## state?

-Dan
 
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Ashish Somwanshi said:
Homework Statement:: Measurement

Suppose an electron is in a spin state that can be described by

|ϕ⟩=3/√2|+⟩+1/2|−⟩
Is that supposed to be ##\frac {\sqrt 3}{2}\ket + + \frac 1 2 \ket -##?

(Otherwise there is a rogue square root in the denominator!)
 
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topsquark said:
First you need to normalize the state.

Hint 1: What does the result of operating ##S_z## mean?

Hint 2: Once you have that, how can you find the probability of finding the electron in the ##\mid + >## state?

-Dan
A quick note. I was looking at this wrong.

Correction:
Hint 1: How do we find the component of |+> from the ket?

Hint 2: How do we then find the probability it's in the |+> state from that?

-Dan
 
Born rule: the probability of measuring the system ##\ket{\psi}## in state ##\ket{\alpha}## is given by
$$
\mathcal{P}(\alpha) = \left| \braket{\alpha | \psi} \right|^2
$$
 

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