Measuring g in the Indian Ocean with a Submarine Pendulum

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The discussion revolves around measuring the acceleration due to gravity (g) at a specific location in the Indian Ocean using a pendulum in a submerged submarine. The problem highlights the effect of the submarine's motion on the measurement of g, particularly when it is moving east at a specified speed.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the concept of centripetal acceleration and its relevance to the pendulum's measurement of g. Questions arise about how the submarine's motion affects the measurement and the calculations involved.

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Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the relationship between centripetal acceleration and the measurement of g. There is an acknowledgment of the complexities involved, with various interpretations of the problem being discussed. One participant reports having found an answer, indicating some progress in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the submarine's motion relative to the Earth's rotation and how this might influence the measurement of g. There is a mention of the specific speed of the submarine and the equatorial radius of the Earth as relevant parameters.

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A scientist is making a precise measurement of g at a certain point in the Indian Ocean (on the equator) by timing the swing of a pendulum of accurately known construction. To provide a stable base, the measurements are conducted in a submerged submarine. It is observed that a slightly different value for g is obtained when the submarine is in motion. What is the change in g, (g'-g) in mm/s2, if the submarine is moving east at 11.3 kph? (Include the sign of the change in your answer.) Use as the equatorial radius of the Earth 6378.2 km

i have no clue how to do this any help would be appreciated
 
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Hint: What kind of motion does the submarine (and pendulum) undergo?
 
it undergoes centripcal acceleration but the equation for that is v^2/r
 
or do you mean constant motion I am so lost for this question
 
it's centripedal ACCELERATION. Constant velocity will have no effect on the pendulum nor on g.
 
bebop721 said:
it undergoes centripcal acceleration but the equation for that is v^2/r
Yes, the submarine is centripetally accelerated. Now use that fact to figure out the change in the measured value of g.
 
so take the speed we right now are going because of the Earth's rotation and divide it by the radius then add the speed of the submarine to the speed were going right now and find the difference between them
 
no that won't work, i still don't know how to use the fact that it is centripedal acceleration to my advantage (a=v^2/r) using that doesn't give me a value close to g
or anything close to 9.81 to compare the subs accerations to
 
Note that the problem says: "It is observed that a slightly different value for g is obtained when the submarine is in motion."

How does the centripetal acceleration change when the submarine moves?
 
  • #10
it changes slightly but how do you calculate that
 
  • #11
Hint: When the submarine is "at rest" in the water it is moving at the same rate as the rotating earth.
 
  • #12
thanks for the help i got the answer last night, thank-you
 

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