Measuring Vibration Excitation Radius & Alpha Parametar

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The discussion revolves around the measurement of the alpha parameter in the context of nuclear physics, specifically related to the vibration excitation radius of a nucleus. Participants explore theoretical formulations, mathematical representations, and references to literature in the field.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for the radius of a nucleus under vibration excitation, questioning how to measure the alpha parameter.
  • The kinetic energy of the system is expressed in terms of the alpha parameter, leading to inquiries about the derivation of coefficients related to density.
  • Another participant identifies the first equation as a decomposition of a function on a sphere using spherical harmonics, likening it to a Fourier transform.
  • There is a suggestion that the alpha parameters could be complex functions, raising further questions about their nature.
  • References to various textbooks and literature are provided, including "Osnovi nuklearne fizike" and works by P. Ring and P. Schuck, indicating a search for authoritative sources.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and interpretation of the equations and concepts presented. There is no consensus on the measurement of the alpha parameter or the nature of the alpha functions, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of these topics.

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Some assumptions regarding the nuclear matter and the conditions under which the equations apply are not fully articulated, leaving room for interpretation and further inquiry.

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When we have vibration excitation then the radius of nucleus is define like:
[tex]R=R_0[1+\sum^{\infty}_{\lambda=0}\sum^{\lambda}_{\mu=-\lambda}\alpha_{\lambda\mu}Y^{\lambda}_{\mu}(\theta,\phi)][/tex]

where [tex]\alpha_{\lambda,\mu}=\alpha_{\lambda,-\mu}[/tex] and [tex]\alpha_{\lambda,\mu}=\alpha_{\lambda,\mu}(t)[/tex]

How you measure this [tex]\alpha[/tex] parametar?

[tex]Y^{\mu}_{\lambda}=\frac{(-1)^{\mu+\lambda}}{2^{\lambda}\lambda!}\sqrt{\frac{2\lambda+1}{4\pi}\frac{(\lambda-\mu)!}{(\lambda+\mu)!}}e^{i\mu\varphi}(sin\Theta)^{\frac{\mu}{2}}\frac{d^{\mu+\lambda}}{d(cos\Theta)^{\mu+\lambda}}sin^{2\lambda}(\Theta)[/tex]

And more:
Kinetic energy of system is define like:

[tex]T=\frac{1}{2}\sum_{\lambda,\mu}B_{\lambda}|\frac{d \alpha_{\lambda,\mu}}{d t}|^2[/tex]

Rayleight use [tex]\rho=\frac{3M}{4R^3_0\pi}[/tex], and get [tex]B_{\lambda}=\frac{3MR^2_0}{4\pi\lambda}[/tex]. How?

Thanks for answers
 
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Which book, what have you tried? ..
 
Well this is from book "Osnovi nuklearne fizike" - Lazar Marinkov. I tried Burcham and some book of Gamov. From the Marinkov's book I think that this is given in reference P. Ring and P. Schuck, The Nuclear Many-Body Problem (Springer-Verlag, New York, Heidelberg, Berlin, 1980) but I don't have this book.
 
The first equation is just a decomposition of a generic function defined on a sphere in terms of spherical harmonics Y. Like a Fourier transform, but on a sphere. [tex]\alpha[/tex]'s are decomposition coefficients.

Y's, though scary looking, are normalized so that the integral of [tex]|Y|^2[/tex] over the entire sphere is something simple (there are a few different definitions, one common definition is that [tex]\int |Y|^2 d\Omega = 1[/tex]. I can't tell right away which one is used by your book.) If you assume that only one of [tex]\alpha[/tex]'s is nonzero and make certain assumptions about the nuclear matter, perhaps that non-excited nucleus is a homogeneous sphere of density [tex]\rho[/tex], deformed according to the formula above, and make assumptions about velocity distribution, and you compute kinetic energy by integrating over the entire volume, you'll get an equation that expresses B in terms of [tex]\rho[/tex].
 
Thanks for answering.
In that series is [tex]\alpha[/tex] perhaps complex functions in general?
 

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