Measuring x and ##p_{y}## precisely

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Slide titled Check your understanding with three bullets: Work out [x hat, p_y hat]; Can you measure both x and p_y as precisely as you want?; Can I measure both p_x and p_y as precisely as I want? Handwritten orange annotation reads x p_y minus p_y x above the first bullet.


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1.
$$ [\hat {x}, \hat {p}_{y}] = \hat {x}\hat {p}_{y} - \hat {p}_{y} \hat {x}$$
$$= \hat {x}(-i \hbar \frac {\partial f}{\partial y}) - (- i \hbar \frac {\partial (fx)}{\partial y}) $$
Since x is not a function of y, it can be taken out of the derivative, so the commutator is zero.

However, I have no clue how to answer the next two questions. I am very confused regarding measurements in quantum mechanics. Does it have something to do with Heisenberg Uncertainty principle?
 
Maylis said:
I am very confused regarding measurements in quantum mechanics. Does it have something to do with Heisenberg Uncertainty principle?
In this context it indeed does. It can be shown that the product of the imprecisions in the measurements of two observables A and B follows the Heisenberg uncertainty relation:

$$\Delta A \Delta B \geq \frac{1}{2}\left | \left\langle \left[ \hat{A}, \hat{B} \right] \right\rangle \right |$$
With this you can answer the second question.

For the third one, do the exact same thing as you did for the first question: operate with the commutator on a test function f and see if you can rearrange the order of the derivatives so that the result is zero.
 
Since the commutator is zero, does that mean that I can measure it precisely? Because ##\sigma_{x} \sigma_{p_{y}} \ge 0##?
 
That's right, their measurements are not constrained by the uncertainty relation.