Mechanical principles using D'lamberts

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving a pile-driver hammer and its interaction with a pile, specifically focusing on determining the average resistance of the ground using D'Alembert's principle and conservation of energy. The problem includes aspects of mechanics and energy transfer.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the term "resistance" in the context of the problem, suggesting it may relate to Hooke's law and the need to integrate to find stored energy.
  • Another participant proposes that the resistance could be modeled differently, suggesting a force constant approach rather than assuming elastic behavior.
  • A participant indicates they will work on the problem using the conservation of energy method and will share their findings later.
  • Several participants request additional information or clarification on D'Alembert's principle to aid in solving the problem.
  • One participant reiterates the problem statement, seeking assistance from others in the thread.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the problem and the principles involved, with no consensus on the interpretation of "resistance" or the best approach to solve the problem. Multiple competing views on how to approach the problem remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential assumptions regarding the nature of the resistance (elastic vs. plastic) and the need for careful reading of the problem statement to determine the actual displacement of the hammer.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying mechanics, particularly those interested in energy transfer, momentum, and the application of D'Alembert's principle in practical problems.

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First time doing this and i dnt really know how to begin.

Homework Statement


A pile-driver hammer of mass 150kg falls freely through a distance of 5m to strike a pile of mass 400kg and drives it 75mm into the ground. The hammer does not rebound when driving the pile. Determine the average resistance of the ground. You are required to solve this problem in two ways:
(a)By making use of the principle of conservation of momentum and D'lamberts principle
(b)By making use of the conservation of energy


Homework Equations


v=u+at
v2(squared)=u2(squared)+2as
S=ut+0.5at2(squared)
 
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Be aware that I do not completely understand the question.
The first question is what do they mean in "resistance". The closest thing I can think of is k in Hooke's law:
F = -kx
Actually you would need its integration along x, which gives the stored energy:
U=1/2*k*x^2
You should check your textbook to figure out whether they mean it.
Now you can compute the energy of the fallen hammer, and have a equation to derive k from the energy stored by ground.
Read the question very carefully to determine how much the hammer have actually gone down.

The problem with this approach that it assumes the "resistance" is along the lines of hooke's law, which holds for elastic, and not for plastic materials. Maybe an approach where we take the force constant would be more physically viable:
F=-F_{0}
hence
U=F_{0}*x
 
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Well I will work on It and i will send you the answer
but i want you to send me relivent info on D'lamberts principle
 
well i don't seems to get the D'lamberts of a thing but i will work on it using consevation of energy method and post it tomorrow is that ok
 
Hi I was just wondering if there is any chance you could help me with that question ( a pile hammer of mass 150kg falls freely through a distance of 5M to strike a pile of mass 400kg and drives it 75mm into the ground. The hammer does not rebound when driving the pile determine the average resistance of the ground)

kind regards

Sam
 
a pile hammer of mass 150kg falls freely through a distance of 5M to strike a pile of mass 400kg and drives it 75mm into the ground. The hammer does not rebound when driving the pile determine the average resistance of the ground
 

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