Mechanics problem. Please clear my doubts regarding forces.

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The discussion revolves around a mechanics problem involving forces acting on an incline and a block placed on it. The incline has mass M and is fixed to a horizontal tabletop, while a block of mass m is released on the incline, which is frictionless. Participants are exploring the forces exerted on the incline by the tabletop during the block's motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the incline and the block, including the normal force and gravitational forces. There is an examination of the balance of forces and the implications of the initial push on the block. Some participants question the necessity of considering certain forces and the equilibrium of the incline.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications on the forces involved. Some have offered guidance on drawing free body diagrams and resolving forces, while others have checked the reasoning against specific cases, such as when the incline angle is zero.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the effects of the incline's angle and the interactions between the block and the incline. There is an emphasis on understanding the components of forces rather than arriving at a definitive solution.

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Homework Statement


In the flgure below, the incline has mass M and is fastened to the stationary horizontal tabletop. The block of mass m is placed near the bottom of the incline and is released with a quick push that sets it sliding upward. It stops near the top of the incline, as shown in the flgure, and then slides down again, always without friction. Find the force that the tabletop exerts on the incline throughout this motion.

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My answer is (M+m)g since the resultant downward force should be the sum of the weight of incline plane and the weight of the mass. But, it looks too simple to be correct.
Please clear my doubts.
1)Although there is a normal force of magnitude mg*cos(theta) that will eventually balance the weight of the mass m since the mass is not moving downward o upward.
2)The initial push on the mass m is not necessary to be considered in the calculation because the force supplied is not constant and so the only force acting on mass m which parallel to the incline is mg*sin(theta).
3)Throughout the motion of mass, only two force were involved. The weight of mass m and the normal force of incline exerted on the mass.
 
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You are neglecting the horizontal component of the normal reaction.
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1)Although there is a normal force of magnitude mg*cos(theta) that will eventually balance the weight
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The normal force N is equal to mgCosθ. I don’t quite understand what you mean by saying that it will eventually balance the weight.

The inclined wedge is in equilibrium due to three forces –the reaction R due to the tabletop, its own weight Mg, and the normal reaction N at the point of location of mass m. You know N in terms of m and θ. Draw a free body diagram and give it another try now. Resolve all the forces along the horizontal and vertical directions.

(Hint: R will not be in the vertical direction.)
 
Right. As a check, note that when θ=0, the reaction is simply (m+M)g, as is to be expected.
 
Thank you so much.
 

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