Men Wearing Makeup: A Trend or a Community?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the topic of men wearing makeup, exploring whether this trend is associated with specific sexual orientations or if it is becoming a broader societal norm. Participants share their observations and opinions on the cultural implications, historical contexts, and personal preferences regarding makeup for men.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether men wearing makeup is primarily a trend within the gay community or if it extends to heterosexual men as well.
  • There are references to public figures like David Beckham, with differing opinions on their influence on men's makeup trends.
  • One participant notes that in upscale environments, they observe well-groomed men who may not identify as gay, suggesting a shift towards normalization.
  • Another participant argues that the tradition of men not wearing makeup is a peculiar Western norm, contrasting it with practices in other cultures.
  • Historical references are made to warriors in Korea, known as hwarangs, who wore makeup, indicating that this practice is not new.
  • Some participants express discomfort with men wearing makeup, associating it with specific lifestyles like Gothic or metrosexual identities.
  • There are discussions about the potential business advantages of looking good, including the use of makeup to enhance appearance.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of makeup on gender identity and societal norms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether men wearing makeup is a trend, a community practice, or a matter of personal choice. Multiple competing views are presented, reflecting a range of cultural, historical, and personal perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reference cultural practices and historical contexts that may not be universally applicable. The discussion includes personal anecdotes and subjective opinions, which may not reflect broader societal trends.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring gender norms, cultural practices related to beauty, and the evolving perceptions of masculinity in contemporary society.

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I have noticed MEN WEARING MAKEUP is this a heterosexual thing or is it
only the gay community, being a country boy i admit i don't keep up with
modern trends.
 
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Well, it depends on which sexual orientation you think David Beckham has..:wink:
 
arildno said:
Well, it depends on which sexual orientation you think David Beckham has..:wink:
Hetro most surly, i know men have to wear makeup for television etc, I am talking
about general use.
 
In the US when I went to an up-scale mall, I'd always see manicured men walking around who would look made-up (I don't think those were gay). I definitely think that this will become a norm in the future, but I really don't think that men should start doing this :bugeye:
 
That males shouldn't adorn and prettify themselves is a peculiar Western tradition.
(In many other cultures, males do).

I can't see why it is a tradition which ought to be kept alive.
 
Monique said:
In the US when I went to an up-scale mall, I'd always see manicured men walking around who would look made-up (I don't think those were gay). I definitely think that this will become a norm in the future, but I really don't think that men should start doing this :bugeye:

In the past men have worn makeup, beauty spots, wigs, i just wonder if,
now that women wear trousers in future the only way to know male from female
is by the voice.
 
In the old days, in my home country of korea. There were warriors called hwarangs, who were probably the most badass warriors you could think of (besides pirates)

But they wore makeup.
 
Men following the Gothic lifestyle wear make up..
 
The only men who wear make up, have manicures, etc. are either gay or metrosexual.
 
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I think it looks odd and I notice it right away, much like I notice a bad hair piece. And the thought of my mates "borrowing" my powder, just makes my brain scream NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 
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This is often a matter of business. I used to notice how some of the salesmen and support people, and especially the Presidents and CEOs, looked so good for their age. One day when I noticed that a 50 year old heavy drinker looked better [healthier] than a very healthy 35 year old, it finally sank in. If you look good [better than normal] you can make more money? Well, we already know that that's true generally - good looking people tend to make more money than less attractive people. So why wouldn't it apply to something like makeup that [in theory] enhances one's looks?
 
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Monique said:
Men following the Gothic lifestyle wear make up..

True. A lot of my friends are in the rock/goth/alternative crowd, and even though most of them don't go for the whole pale face, black lipstick, I often see a number of them with black eyeliner on. In my experience, its not really a statement about sexuality so much as a fasion thing. I've talked to a number of girls about it (from the same kind of crowd) and a lot of them do find men in makeup quite attractive.
 
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Monique said:
Men following the Gothic lifestyle wear make up..
you do look sooo cute, but why the eky thump should blokes look like you?
 
  • #14
I think men and women shouldn't wear makeup. Whats with all this BS anyway.
 
  • #15
I could care less personally. People decorate their bedrooms, why not their bodies? If men want to do it as well, so what? Personally, I neither decorate my room nor do I wear any makeup, but I nonetheless do keep up my appearance. I think I look great without it, but if I didn't, I might use some.
 
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gravenewworld said:
The only men who wear make up, have manicures, etc. are either gay or metrosexual.
Or corpses. Don't forget corpses. Morticians are quite skilled at make-up.
 
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Bladibla said:
In the old days, in my home country of korea. There were warriors called hwarangs, who were probably the most badass warriors you could think of (besides pirates)

But they wore makeup.

Here's a description of Bladibla's hwarang:

One of the best-known homosexual histories is the Hwarang or Flower Boy, the story of a homoerotic military elite, paralleling the Egyptian mamluks, the Japanese samurai, and the Theban Band of ancient Greece (Murray 2000). Prior to the introduction of Buddhism, ancient Korea maintained a transgendered shamanistic tradition, in which the hwarang seem to have been involved. With the transfer of religious legitimization to Buddhism, the code of the hwarang began to change from social and religious concerns to political and military programs. In the Haedong-Kosung-Chon (Lives of Eminent Korean Monks) written by the Buddhist Kakhun in 1215, the first criterion of the hwarang seems to have been appearance: “It was handsome youths who powdered their faces, wore ornamented dresses, and were respected as hwarang.” After unification of the peninsula, ruled by the Three Kingdoms, in 676, the members of hwarang were rewarded with land and slaves.

It seems they were basically similar to the Sacred Band in Thebes in more than one respect..
 
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arildno said:
Bad-ass warriors??
An awful lot of warrior (classes?) use or still use make-up either for ritualistic purposes, as camoflage, or to frighten the enemy. (No one in his right mind would call an SAS commando a sissy to his face.*) And since I'm half Scots, the Highlanders back in grandpa Robert the Bruce's time wore all kinds of weird colours, often make-up without clothing, and leapt around like maniacs. (As if the bloody bagpipes hadn't scared the bejabers out of everyone already.)

*As an aside: One of the funniest things I ever saw was in that cowboy bar I worked in. 4 or 5 guys got up and started dancing together when the band started. Women dancing together is common and accepted, but over a dozen of the cowboys took objection to this atrocity. They started in with the sexual-orientation insults, which were ignored. Then threats, which were ignored. Finally they couldn't stand being ignored any more, so they decided since I as the bouncer refused to stop the dancing, they would. One of them got in one punch, which wasn't ignored, and the whole lot of them ended up leaving by ambulance. We have a Brit army training camp a few miles away, and this was the paratroopers' last night on the town before being shipped to Germany. I knew who they were, and what was going to happen, so I suppose I should feel guilty about not trying to prevent it... but I just couldn't bring myself to spoil the moment. :devil: :biggrin:
 
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Danger, you should feel very very guilty for a millisecond or two.
 
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wolram said:
Danger, you should feel very very guilty for a millisecond or two.
I tried, but I was laughing too hard for it to register.

Aw nuts! I just got a call to start work 3 hours early today. Gotta go.
 

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