Do you wear suit and tie to work? Do you think people should be?

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The discussion revolves around the appropriateness and perceptions of wearing suits and ties in various work environments. Participants share personal experiences, opinions on formality in dress codes, and the implications of attire on professional interactions.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that formal attire, such as suits and ties, is rare in their workplaces, with casual dress being the norm.
  • Others argue that more people should wear suits, citing that they look and feel good, and suggest that a shift towards casual attire has occurred over time.
  • Several participants express discomfort with suits and ties, describing them as uncomfortable and questioning their necessity for looking professional.
  • One participant shares a personal success story linked to adopting a more formal dress code, claiming it led to increased respect and pay, while another challenges the causation of this outcome.
  • There are differing views on the role of attire in professional settings, with some suggesting that it can enhance credibility, while others argue that knowledge and competence are more important than appearance.
  • Participants discuss the variability of dress codes based on industry, with some workplaces enforcing strict guidelines while others allow for casual wear.
  • Some express skepticism about the effectiveness of dressing formally, suggesting that it may not correlate with success or professionalism in all fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity or appropriateness of wearing suits and ties. There are multiple competing views regarding the impact of attire on professional success and personal comfort.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific workplace policies regarding dress codes, while others share anecdotal experiences that highlight the subjective nature of attire's impact on professional interactions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring workplace culture, dress codes, and the social implications of professional attire.

  • #31
I wear business casual, but if a visit a clients office, I might wear a suit and tie.

I don't like hard leather shoes so I wear a black shoe (New Balance) that's more like a sneaker.

Around the office, these days I wear sandles, but as long as I'm in my office I prefer not to wear shoes.

When the weather gets warm, I'll wear short-sleeved dress shirts of T-shirts with pockets.
 
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  • #32
At my work, if you showed up wearing a suit, people would assume you're going to "take a long lunch" so you can go to a job interview.
 
  • #33
As Leroy and Evo mentioned, it entirely depends upon what your job is. In my 17 years as a locksmith and my 6 years of working in a sign shop with both screen printers and die-cutting on an antique printing press, I removed my wedding ring and even my Medic Alert bracelet in case of injury; a tie could have proven fatal.
Nitsuj, here in Canada those shoes were always called "thongs". It disturbed us greatly when the Yanks started using that term for "butt floss". I'm 56 and would be more inclined to hire you than the dude in the suit as long as all other qualifications were equal. More casual dress, if it's clean and neat, implies to me a higher level of self-confidence and a more lateral-thinking approach to things. I consider both to be admirable qualities in a colleague.
In the bar, the dress was neat-casual. If you happened to wear a tie by choice for something like New Year's Eve, it was a clip-on. That's so that someone that you are ejecting can't strangle you with it.
 
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  • #34
Sometimes I wear a suit if my laundry is backed up and I've got nothing else to wear.

It beats digging out old Halloween costumes, which is sometimes the only other option.
 
  • #35
collinsmark said:
Sometimes I wear a suit if my laundry is backed up and I've got nothing else to wear.

That's what I keep a spare birthday suit for.
 
  • #36
I like ties because they're a means for some individuality in a world (government workers) where most everyone is white shirt/black pants or blue shirt/khaki pants. Rarely do I need to wear a full suit though.
 
  • #37
Danger said:
That's what I keep a spare birthday suit for.

Lol.

Wearing a robe is much better than a suit. Suits are a bit restrictive.
 
  • #38
Mororvia said:
I like ties because they're a means for some individuality in a world (government workers) where most everyone is white shirt/black pants or blue shirt/khaki pants. Rarely do I need to wear a full suit though.

I genuinely laughed when reading this. Ties a means for some individuality... I hadn't heard that one before.
 
  • #39
Hobin said:
I genuinely laughed when reading this. Ties a means for some individuality... I hadn't heard that one before.
Really! Spend $20 on a silk tie to be an "individual"?
 
  • #40
Since when did ties start costing $20? Ties generally cost around $60/tie.
 
  • #42
Alex_Sanders said:
I never dress formally, and only ppl here wear like that are either high ranking managers or banker, or salesman. I once dressed all up for a meeting and it turned out I was a rare bird.

And it is really interesting how almost every sales engie wear suit and tie and have their shoes shined. But people use to wear like that in the old days, heck, they even wear top hats. What happened?
I wear a suit, or sport jacket, and tie a lot. But I'm 65. I wouldn't expect young people today to dress that way in lots of situations where I do.
 
  • #43
phoenix:\\ said:
Since when did ties start costing $20? Ties generally cost around $60/tie.
I haven't bought any ties for decades. But they still can be had for less than $20.

http://www.thetiebar.com/
 
  • #44
A business suit and tie (here in Maine) is jarring when you want to do some business with the wearer. Too formal. If you want to put someone at ease, even when proposing very large transactions, dress neatly and let your attitude and personality carry the day. I have negotiated auction consignments worth over $1M with consignors and never wore a tie or a sport coat.

One guy (very large collection of flags and antique firearms) drove up here to seal the deal and said "My wife wants to meet you." I had spoken to her several times on the phone, usually just asking for her husband, and she was in the car. I was wearing my typical get-up at the time (polo-shirt and khakis), and later her husband called me and said how much she trusted me to handle their collection. That collection (liquidated) was their retirement money, so she was right to be attentive to the details, including who would catalog and promote the collection to buyers.

She was acting on intuition, BTW. She got out of that Caddy, and held her hand out. I gave her a gentle hand-shake and said that I was happy to finally meet her in person, and we exchanged a couple of pleasantries. Probably less than 30 seconds in total. In the end, we got about 50% more for their collection at auction than I had estimated, because of the high quality and rarity of some items.

No tie. No jacket, and certainly no suit.
 

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