What has happened to gender separation?

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I have noticed that women don't seem to make them self's up so much as 20yrs ago, and they wear things like raggety jeans, i know i am going to get killed for this but i am being honest, some girls look like boys and some boys look like girls, what has happened to gender separation?

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Just some girls. Not a significant decline in stock for me to worry.
 
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The question in the title doesn't appear to me to match the question in the post.
 
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Maybe they have more important things on their minds than your subjective notion of "pretty"?
 
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wolram, I don't know how things are in England (your profile states that you live from Warwickshire, UK) , but at least here in Toronto, I have not especially noticed any such trend among younger women, except among a relatively small subgroup.

And perhaps as Ben Niehoff suggested, the younger women you've encountered may have other priorities apart from looking "pretty".
 
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what has happened to gender separation?
Youth always rebel against the previous generation. Old customs of conformity and gender roles are ripe for breaking.
 
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Once you remove the clothes, the differences are the same you remember.

Just most hair is gone.
 
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I have noticed that women don't seem to make them self's up so much as 20yrs ago, and they wear things like raggety jeans, i know i am going to get killed for this but i am being honest, some girls look like boys and some boys look like girls, what has happened to gender separation?
Styles constantly cycle. Raggedy jeans have been in and out a few times in my lifetime, and the hippie days of the 60's were anti-make-up days for women. And speaking of hippie days, there were constant complaints that the long hair on men got them mistaken for women. There always seems to be some odd trend that's disturbing. The goth movement was big around here, and it had a definite unhealthy glow about it. But it's all but gone now. Fashion seems to be a perfect embodiment of "This, too, shall pass."
 
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Old customs of conformity and gender roles are ripe for breaking.
I like men to look and act like men and women to look and act like women. Of course, at the end it's up to the individual alone, but every now and then when I see a woman that looks and behaves like a truck driver, I think: "What a pity!".
 
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Once you remove the clothes, the differences are the same you remember.
This...

I'm having trouble assimilating this statement.
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I like men to look and act like men and women to look and act like women. Of course, at the end it's up to the individual alone, but every now and then when I see a woman that looks and behaves like a truck driver, I think: "What a pity!".
It is like this in my area, i would not say they looked like truck drivers but more like down and outs, it seems like the days are gone when one could say one out of twenty women, look nicely dressed and had naturally looking hair instead of having purple or orange hair and rings in their noses
 
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It is like this in my area, i would not say they looked like truck drivers but more like down and outs, it seems like the days are gone when one could say one out of twenty women, look nicely dressed and had naturally looking hair instead of having purple or orange hair and rings in their noses
These are just your personal definitions for beauty. Some think orange hair and a nose ring is beautiful. In any case, how about you get to know them instead of objectifying them? You may find once you get to know them you don't care what color their hair is. We're all dead in a 100 years, what difference does it make?
 
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What is wrong with being a truck driver? :biggrin:
Nothing, especially not on long American highways. I just like it so much when women look... feminine, and (at least in Europe) most truck drivers don't look very feminine to me.
We're all dead in a 100 years, what difference does it make?
That's just pure speculation. :smile:
 
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Nothing, especially not on long American highways. I just like it so much when women look... feminine, and (at least in Europe) most truck drivers don't look very feminine to me.
Yes and there are still plenty of feminine females. The men who like masculine females need some to choose from too ya know :smile:
 
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I think it may have to see with the fact that according to the radical women's movement
the behavioral differences between men and women are all socially determined, which is
false if you notice the biological/physiological differences and the premise that form follows function.
Before anyone jumps on me, I mean I believe the two are different, neither is better nor worse.
 
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These are just your personal definitions for beauty. Some think orange hair and a nose ring is beautiful. In any case, how about you get to know them instead of objectifying them? You may find once you get to know them you don't care what color their hair is. We're all dead in a 100 years, what difference does it make?
Get to know them:eek: they may eat me and as for only living 100 years i think i may surpass that:biggrin:
 
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These are just your personal definitions for beauty. Some think orange hair and a nose ring is beautiful.
I don't think those kinds of alterations are about beauty at all, Greg. They are more social statements than anything else, and are often chosen especially because they are esthetically jarring. They are rebellious, challenging, counter-culture, non-conformist, all that stuff.
In any case, how about you get to know them instead of objectifying them? You may find once you get to know them you don't care what color their hair is.
People with orange hair want to you care about what color their hair is. They want an old foggey like Wolram to be put off and confused. There's always been a shock faction in every generation; people who do inexplicable things simply because they're inexplicable, off-putting.
 
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I don't think those kinds of alterations are about beauty at all, Greg. They are more social statements than anything else, and are often chosen especially because they are esthetically jarring. They are rebellious, challenging, counter-culture, non-conformist, all that stuff.

People with orange hair want to you care about what color their hair is. They want an old foggey like Wolram to be put off and confused. There's always been a shock faction in every generation; people who do inexplicable things simply because they're inexplicable, off-putting.
Old foggey? gad it is pistols at dawn for you,:frown: and i will have you know if i dressed like some i would be taken to the salvation army for soup and tea:biggrin:.
 
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A recent study conducted at Brunel University London has revealed that the opposite sex’s attraction to masculine men and feminine women is a modern occurrence in highly developed cultures and what men and women really desire is facial neutrality.1

PS: 1. Don't know if this source is trustworthy or not!
2.Sorry but the title is not as eye-catching as the previous 1!
 
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A recent study conducted at Brunel University London has revealed that the opposite sex’s attraction to masculine men and feminine women is a modern occurrence in highly developed cultures and what men and women really desire is facial neutrality.1
Thank you so much! I'm modern and highly developed :smile:
 
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Youth always rebel against the previous generation. Old customs of conformity and gender roles are ripe for breaking.
Thank god.
Yesterday, I discovered that the year I was born, only 4% of Americans were in favor mixed race marriages.
And it wouldn't be until I was 8 years old that laws against mixed race marriages would be ruled unconstitutional.
My response to this new found knowledge was; "People in the older days were stupid".


...what has happened to gender separation?
IMHO, to paraphrase Greg; "It's an old custom of conformity, and hopefully, on it's way out".


ps. My above comments should not be construed, in any way, as approving of Greg in green hair. It was a good look for Borek, but not for Greg, IMHO.

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Thank god.
Yesterday, I discovered that the year I was born, only 4% of Americans were in favor mixed race marriages.
And it wouldn't be until I was 8 years old that laws against mixed race marriages would be ruled unconstitutional.
My response to this new found knowledge was; "People in the older days were stupid".



IMHO, to paraphrase Greg; "It's an old custom of conformity, and hopefully, on it's way out".


ps. My above comments should not be construed, in any way, as approving of Greg in green hair. It was a good look for Borek, but not for Greg, IMHO.

We were all young once: EDIT: Green hair looks good on everyone.
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... They are rebellious, challenging, counter-culture, non-conformist, all that stuff. ...
Ah! The poor babies haven't drunk the correct flavor of Cool-Aid yet. But they will. Then they will fall inline, stop questioning authority, develop a taste for a more mainstream stream of mindless commercially driven pop culture and walk in step with all the rest of the lemmings. That will make them very attractive to real men I'm sure.

Just my two cents.
 
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Ah! The poor babies haven't drunk the correct flavor of Cool-Aid yet. But they will. Then they will fall inline, stop questioning authority, develop a taste for a more mainstream stream of mindless commercially driven pop culture and walk in step with all the rest of the lemmings. That will make them very attractive to real men I'm sure.

Just my two cents.
For some reason you took me as condemning or criticizing them, when my only point was that that kind of look is not about beauty.
 

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