Solving the Merry Go Round Problem Using Conservation of Angular Momentum

  • Thread starter Thread starter phy21050
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a merry-go-round with a specified moment of inertia and initial angular velocity. The scenario changes when a man steps onto the merry-go-round, prompting a question about the new angular velocity after the man joins the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the shape and configuration of the merry-go-round and the man, considering how to calculate the total rotational inertia. Questions about the conservation of angular momentum are raised, with some participants unsure about the relevant principles and quantities involved.

Discussion Status

Some participants are attempting to clarify their understanding of the problem, while others express difficulty in grasping the concepts. There is an ongoing exploration of how to apply the conservation of angular momentum, with hints provided but no consensus on the approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention challenges with the textbook and lecture materials, indicating a lack of clear examples or guidance in their coursework. The problem is part of a take-home assignment, and there is an emphasis on understanding rather than simply obtaining a solution.

phy21050
Could someone walk me through the steps of the following problem step by step? Thanks. A merry go round with a moment of inertia of 1000kgm^2 is coasting at 2.20 rad/s. When an 80kg man steps onto the rim , a distance of 2 m from the axis of rotation the angular velocity decreases to ? rad/s
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Hi,

I would like to see how you would start this problem before telling you any detailed steps. Here is what you should be thinking about.

1. What shape can the merry-go-round be approximated as?
2. What can the man be approximated as?
3. What law of physics can be used to deterimine the initial and final angular velocities?

For #3, think about what quantity you learned in class lately that involve angular velocities. Is that quantity conserved? If so, can you use it here?
 
thats partly the reason I am writing because the textbook sux and lecture for the most part has been not helpful so being that I have a difficult time as it is with Physics that only makes it more difficult. As for the answers to your questions...
1. the merry go round is like a circle
2. I have no idea what the man is, a mass?
3. and for the 3rd I am not sure
 
Originally posted by phy21050
1. the merry go round is like a circle

Yes. Now, you know the rotational inertia of the merry-go-round, and you know the expression for the rotational inertia of a circle (from your book).

2. I have no idea what the man is, a mass?

Yes, he's a mass, but we are also interested in the configuration of the system (that's how you find the rotational inertia). So, try to find the rotational inertia of the (man+merry-go-round). I would treat the man as a point mass for this purpose.

3. and for the 3rd I am not sure

This should be readily apparent from the same chapter in which the problem appears. Try to look for it.
 
could you help me with the problem Tom? I don't really have the slightest idea as where to begin. The question is on a take home assignment and there is not really a similar question in the book.
 
I am trying to help you with the problem, but to be honest it sounds like you want me to do it for you. Could you try to read the chapter and come up with *something*? This problem is really not that difficult.

Here's a hint: The conservation law I alluded to earlier is the conservation of angular momentum. This is one of the most important principles in physics, and I am sure that your teacher must have given special attention to it.

Give it a try, show me how you start the problem, and I will help you from there.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
18
Views
7K
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 44 ·
2
Replies
44
Views
6K
Replies
2
Views
3K