Mertens function : new formulation

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The discussion revolves around the validity of a new formulation of the Mertens function, particularly in relation to the traditional definition and its implications for calculations involving the Möbius function.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the truth of a proposed identity related to the Mertens function and provides an example calculation using the Möbius function.
  • Another participant asserts that the identity is true, citing checks from other forums.
  • Several participants present the traditional definition of the Mertens function and calculate its value for n=8, noting a contradiction with the proposed new formulation.
  • A participant emphasizes that the new formulation holds under specific conditions, namely that o must be odd and greater than or equal to 3, and claims to have a proof for this assertion.
  • One participant describes their use of a programming tool to compare results from the traditional definition and the new formulation, reporting equal results for specific values of n.
  • Another participant expresses satisfaction with the correctness of the new formula.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the validity of the new formulation compared to the traditional definition of the Mertens function. Some participants support the new formulation, while others highlight contradictions with established calculations.

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The discussion includes various assumptions about the conditions under which the new formulation is claimed to be valid, as well as dependencies on specific definitions of the Mertens function and the Möbius function.

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Is this identity true?

Look at attachment

Thank you.
 

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Example :
o=25

M(50) = mu(27)+mu(29)+mu(31)+...+mu(49)
= 0+(-1)+(-1)+...+0= -3

mu(n) is Mobius function
 
It is true!
People checked it in other fora...
So thanks for reading the post.
 
The traditional definition: M(n) = mu(1)+mu(2)+...+mu(n)

for n=8 we have M(8) = 1+(-1)+(-1)+0+(-1)+1+(-1)+0 = -2

Your formula Gh(8) = mu(4+2)+mu(4+4) = mu(6)+mu(8) = 1

in contradiction to the traditional formula
 
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RamaWolf said:
The traditional definition: M(n) = mu(1)+mu(2)+...+mu(n)

for n=8 we have M(8) = 1+(-1)+(-1)+0+(-1)+1+(-1)+0 = -2

Your formula Gh(8) = mu(4+2)+mu(4+4) = mu(6)+mu(8) = 1

in contradiction to the traditional formula

n=8=2*4 an 4 is not odd

Read the condition : o must be odd >=3 then you can compute M(2*o)

My formula holds. Someone in another forum just proved it.
I have a proof but it is little bit long.

Thank you for your comment
 
With n=2*o, (o odd) it's OK

For my investigation I used ARIBAS (Windows version) and I programmed a function 'SmallMoebiusMu(n)' (small because n must not exceed 2**32) and with this function, I compared my function 'SmallMertensNumber(n)' (traditional definition) to the function 'Gaussianheart(n)' (your formulation) and for n=2,6,10,14,18,...,402 I found equal results.

SmallMoeniusMu uses the built-in ARIBAS function 'factor16' and 'prime32test'.

Regards from Germany
 
The formula is correct!
Good for me!
 

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