Methods for showing divergence of $\sum_{1}^{\infty} ln(1+\frac{1}{n})$?

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The discussion centers on the convergence or divergence of the series $\sum_{1}^{\infty} \ln(1+\frac{1}{n})$. Participants explore various methods to analyze the series, including the limit comparison test, ratio test, and alternative approaches involving telescoping sums and integral comparisons.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the limit comparison test indicates divergence, while the ratio test yields an inconclusive result.
  • Another participant proposes using L'Hôpital's rule to analyze the limit in the ratio test, leading to a limit of 1, which is also inconclusive.
  • A different approach is presented, where $\ln(1+\frac{1}{n})$ is expressed as a difference of logarithms, $\ln(n+1) - \ln(n)$, suggesting that telescoping partial sums can demonstrate divergence.
  • It is noted that $\ln(x)$ can be represented as an integral, leading to the inequality $\ln(1+\frac{1}{n}) \geq \frac{1}{n+1}$, which may also support divergence.

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Participants generally agree on the applicability of the limit comparison test, but there is no consensus on the overall convergence or divergence of the series. Multiple methods are proposed, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the final conclusion.

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The discussion involves various mathematical techniques and assumptions, including the conditions under which the limit comparison test and ratio test are applied. The implications of the integral representation and the telescoping series approach are also considered, but no definitive conclusions are reached.

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Does\: $ \sum_{1}^{\infty} ln(1+\frac{1}{n}) $\: converge?
I tried the limit comparison test with bn=1/n and got that it diverges, which also looks right.
However I also tried the ratio test:
$ \lim_{{n}\to{\infty}} \left| \frac{{a}_{n+1}}{{a}_{n}} \right| = \lim_{{n}\to{\infty}} \left| \frac{\ln\left({1+\frac{1}{n+1}}\right)}{\ln\left({1+\frac{1}{n}}\right)} \right| = ? $
I have edited my original post because I had, thoughtlessly, used Ln a/Ln b = Ln (a-b), which is a silly mistake, of course that's not true.
Actually one should use L'Hositals rule to simplify this, which I am currently busy with :-).
 
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Using L'H rule I got that limit = 1, which is inconclusive for the ratio test, so the limit comparison test seems the only way to do this one.
 
Hi ognik,

ognik said:
so the limit comparison test seems the only way to do this one.

Limit comparison test certainly works. Thought I might offer two other methods that do as well:

1) Write $\ln\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)=\ln\left(\frac{n+1}{n}\right)=\ln(n+1)-\ln(n),$ then use a sequence of telescoping partial sums to show divergence.

2) It's useful to note that
$$\ln(x)=\int_{1}^{x}\frac{1}{t}dt$$
From this it follows that
$$\ln\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)=\int_{1}^{1+\frac{1}{n}}\frac{1}{t}dt\geq \frac{1}{n+1},$$
where the inequality holds from the shape of the graph of $f(t)=\frac{1}{t}.$

Hopefully this has been helpful. If not, feel free to disregard this. Let me know if anything is unclear/not quite right.
 
GJA said:
Hi ognik,
Limit comparison test certainly works. Thought I might offer two other methods that do as well:

1) Write $\ln\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)=\ln\left(\frac{n+1}{n}\right)=\ln(n+1)-\ln(n),$ then use a sequence of telescoping partial sums to show divergence.

2) It's useful to note that
$$\ln(x)=\int_{1}^{x}\frac{1}{t}dt$$
From this it follows that
$$\ln\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)=\int_{1}^{1+\frac{1}{n}}\frac{1}{t}dt\geq \frac{1}{n+1},$$
where the inequality holds from the shape of the graph of $f(t)=\frac{1}{t}.$

Hopefully this has been helpful. If not, feel free to disregard this. Let me know if anything is unclear/not quite right.

Both are useful and appreciated, thanks.
 

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