Methylene Blue's equivalent weight

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The discussion revolves around determining the equivalent weight of Methylene Blue (MB) for preparing a specific solution concentration. Participants explore the concept of equivalent weight in the context of acid/base and redox reactions, as well as its application in a specific experimental setup involving pet coke and sulfuric acid.

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  • One participant seeks the equivalent weight of Methylene Blue to prepare a solution with a specific normality.
  • Another participant provides the molar mass of Methylene Blue and suggests that normality may not be meaningful for this compound without further research on ion carriers.
  • A participant questions where to find the number of ion carriers for Methylene Blue.
  • Discussion includes the definition of equivalents in acid/base titrations and redox reactions, emphasizing that equivalents relate to the amount of substance that donates or accepts protons or electrons.
  • One participant proposes that the equivalent weight could be calculated as molar mass divided by two, based on the assumption that sulfuric acid provides two protons in the reaction.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the specific type of titration being conducted and emphasizes the need for a balanced chemical equation to proceed with calculations.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the equivalent weight of Methylene Blue or the specifics of its application in the described experiment. Multiple viewpoints regarding the definition and calculation of equivalents remain present.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of defining equivalent weight in different chemical contexts, and the need for a balanced reaction to accurately determine equivalents. There is uncertainty regarding the specific reaction type and the implications for calculating normality.

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Hello,
I have to prepare a Methylene Blue solution 1ml = 0.01 meq, or 0.01 N, from MB powder. To know the amount of powder required, I need to know MB's equivalent weight, or equivalent number, but haven't been able to find it so far.
Does anyone know?
Help appreciated
 
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Methylene blue is 319.85 g/mol for the dry, non hydrated green powder
from there you can easily calculate the grams per liter for a 0.01M solution.
As far as a 0.01N solution you will need to research the number of ion carriers.
However , my guess is that a "Normal" solution is not meaningful for methylene blue.
 
Thanks for the reply.

Do you know where could I find that number of ion carriers? I've looked on the web, but haven't found anything so far.
 
Equivalents may refer to different phenomena. For instance in acid/base titrations an equivalent is the amount of substance that gives 1 mol of protons. So in a monoprotic acid the terms equivalent and normality the same as mols and molarity. For polyprotic acids such as sulfuric acid, 1 mol of sulfuric acid can give 2 moles of protons. Therefore for sulfuric acid 1equivalent = 0.5mol of sulfuric acid because 1 mol of sulfuric acid will yield, when fully deprotonated, 2 mols of protons.

This idea is also extended to redox reactions in much the same way as above except instead of protons you think in terms of mols of electrons. So an equivalent of quinone (for instance, off the top of my head) would be 0.5mol because quinone will accept 2 electrons in a redox reaction. Or something like Fe2+ or Fe3+ going to Fe(s) can be treated accordingly.

Basically you should be able to figure out an equivalent weight given the Molar Mass and a balanced reaction.
 
Methylene blue will be used to determine the methylene blue index of pet coke, by its addition to a solution of pet coke acidified with sulfuric acid.
So the reaction is between MB and sulfuric acid.
Can I say then that the equivalent weight is Molar Mass/2 (since the acid gives 2 protons) ?
 
I'm not familiar with what you are trying to do and it is not clear whether you are doing a redox titration or an acid/base titration. Regardless what I wrote above is how equivalents are defined and how people work with them, it simplifies language but makes the Math's slightly more difficult.

Remember equivalent is the amount of substance which will accept/donate 1mol of protons/electrons. Normality is just Eq/L, completely analogous to moles and molarity.

You must therefore start with a balanced chemical equation for the reaction which you will be studying. Try doing that first and perhaps I can then help, otherwise you should wait for someone more knowledgeable about these things to answer.
 

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