Undergrad Metric tensor derived from a geodesic

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In a 2D manifold, deriving a metric from geodesic equations requires more than just the connection, as a metric is not guaranteed to exist without additional definitions. The complexity of restoring the metric involves solving partial differential equations (PDEs), which may not have suitable or unique solutions. The geodesic equation does not account for the anti-symmetric part of connection coefficients, meaning torsion must be specified to find these coefficients. Defining geodesics over a subset of the manifold does not automatically imply the absence of torsion, and one cannot simply assume this to derive a metric. The discussion emphasizes the intricate relationship between geodesics, connections, and the metric in differential geometry.
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Let we have a 2D manifold. We choose a coordinate system where we can construct all geodesics through any point. Is it enough to derive a metric from geodesic equation? Or do we need to define something else for the manifold?
 
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Geodesic curves are generated by connection; you can have a connection but do not have metric. Restoring metric compatible with symmetric connection is not a simple problem.
 
zwierz said:
Geodesic curves are generated by connection; you can have a connection but do not have metric. Restoring metric compatible with symmetric connection is not a simple problem.
Thanks for reply! Could you tell me what is the complexity? As I see I need to solve partial differential equations. That's it?
 
Yes, you must solve the PDE to restore metric by known connection; these PDE are not obliged to have a suitable solution as well as they are not obliged to have a unique solution
 
There is a question, though. Let we have a curve equation not w.r.t. the affine parameter but a 2D chart. Can I use the geodesic equation with this curve equation to find connection coefficients? If so, will solving further PDE give me a correct metric in this coordinate system?
 
VladZH said:
There is a question, though. Let we have a curve equation not w.r.t. the affine parameter but a 2D chart. Can I use the geodesic equation with this curve equation to find connection coefficients? If so, will solving further PDE give me a correct metric in this coordinate system?
In general, no. The geodesic equation does not depend on the anti-symmetric part of the connection coefficients. You can only find the connection coefficients if you also specify the anti-symmetric part (i.e., you need to specify the torsion).
 
Orodruin said:
In general, no. The geodesic equation does not depend on the anti-symmetric part of the connection coefficients. You can only find the connection coefficients if you also specify the anti-symmetric part (i.e., you need to specify the torsion).
Can my chosen curve/curves family give me information about torsion? Should it have second derivative to have a torsion?
 
Is there really no answer?
 
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