MHBSolving Iterated Integral 3 with Antiderivatives

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The discussion revolves around solving the iterated integral $$\int_0^1\int_y^{e^y}\sqrt{x}dxdy$$, focusing on the antiderivatives involved and the steps required to evaluate the integral. Participants explore various approaches to the problem, including antiderivation and integration techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially computes the inner integral and expresses it as $$\Bigl[\frac{2x^{\frac{3}{2}}}{3} \Bigr]_y^{e^y}$$ but struggles with the subsequent antiderivative of $$2e^{\frac{2y}{3}}$$.
  • Another participant provides the correct antiderivative for $$e^{\frac{2y}{3}}$$, suggesting it should be $$\frac{3}{2}e^{\frac{2y}{3}} + C$$.
  • A different participant acknowledges confusion regarding the integration process and presents their solution, which includes a correction to the exponents in the integral.
  • Several participants agree on the expression for the inner integral but differ in their approaches to the next steps, particularly regarding the exponents and the limits of integration.
  • One participant identifies a mistake in the exponent used in the integral, clarifying that it should be $$\int_0^1\frac{2e^{\frac{3y}{2}}-2y^{\frac{3}{2}}}{3}dy$$ instead of the previously stated form.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the formulation of the inner integral but exhibit disagreement on the subsequent steps and the correct handling of exponents. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most efficient method to arrive at the final answer.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the correct application of integration techniques and the handling of limits, indicating potential misunderstandings in the mathematical steps involved.

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Hello MHB,
I got stuck on one exercise,

$$\int_0^1\int_y^{e^y}\sqrt{x}dxdy$$
So I antiderivate respect to x and get
$$\Bigl[\frac{2x^{\frac{3}{2}}}{3} \Bigr]_y^{e^y}$$
so we got:

$$\int_0^1\frac{2e^{\frac{2y}{3}}-2y^{\frac{2}{3}}}{3}$$

So I did try antiderivate that but as soon as I try antiderivate $$2e^{\frac{2y}{3}}$$ I would get $$\frac{2e^{\frac{6y}{3}}}{y}$$ and we got zero in our limit that means I done something wrong and I can't see what I done wrong
edit: in the limits it's $$e^y$$ it does not look clearly

Regards,
 
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Petrus said:
Hello MHB,
I got stuck on one exercise,

$$\int_0^1\int_y^{e^y}\sqrt{x}dxdy$$
So I antiderivate respect to x and get
$$\Bigl[\frac{2x^{\frac{3}{2}}}{3} \Bigr]_y^{e^y}$$
so we got:

$$\int_0^1\frac{2e^{\frac{2y}{3}}-2y^{\frac{2}{3}}}{3}$$

So I did try antiderivate that but as soon as I try antiderivate $$2e^{\frac{2y}{3}}$$ I would get $$\frac{2e^{\frac{6y}{3}}}{y}$$ and we got zero in our limit that means I done something wrong and I can't see what I done wrong
edit: in the limits it's $$e^y$$ it does not look clearly

Regards,
\int e^{2y/3} dy = \frac{3}{2}e^{2y/3} + C

-Dan
 
Thanks Dan!
I guess I never notice that I confused myself when I integrated with e but I solved it, here is how I solved it:

$$\int_0^1\int_y^{e^y}\sqrt{x}dxdy$$
So I antiderivate respect to x and get
$$\Bigl[\frac{2x^{\frac{3}{2}}}{3} \Bigr]_y^{e^y}$$
so we got:

$$\int_0^1\frac{2e^{\frac{2y}{3}}-2y^{\frac{2}{3}}}{3}dy$$
$$\frac{1}{3} $$$$\Bigl[ 3e^{\frac{2y}{3}}-\frac{6y^{\frac{5}{3}}}{5} \Bigr]_0^1= e^{\frac{2}{3}}-\frac{7}{5}$$

Regards,
 
Hello Petrus,

I agree that:

$$\int_y^{e^y}\sqrt{x}\,dx=\frac{2}{3}\left[x^{\frac{3}{2}} \right]_y^{e^y}$$

However, for the next step, I would write:

$$\frac{2}{3}\int_0^1 e^{\frac{3y}{2}}-y^{\frac{3}{2}}\,dy=\frac{2}{3}\left[\frac{2}{3}e^{\frac{3y}{2}}-\frac{2}{5}y^{\frac{5}{2}} \right]_0^1$$

Do you see where you went wrong with the exponents? Can you finish now?
 
MarkFL said:
Hello Petrus,

I agree that:

$$\int_y^{e^y}\sqrt{x}\,dx=\frac{2}{3}\left[x^{\frac{3}{2}} \right]_y^{e^y}$$

However, for the next step, I would write:

$$\frac{2}{3}\int_0^1 e^{\frac{3y}{2}}-y^{\frac{3}{2}}\,dy=\frac{2}{3}\left[\frac{2}{3}e^{\frac{3y}{2}}-\frac{2}{5}y^{\frac{5}{2}} \right]_0^1$$

Do you see where you went wrong with the exponents? Can you finish now?
Hello Mark,
I want to thank you for taking your time and checking my soloution!

MarkFL said:
Do you see where you went wrong with the exponents? Can you finish now?
Now I see what I do misstake. I accident confused myself and did write

$$\int_0^1\frac{2e^{\frac{2y}{3}}-2y^{\frac{2}{3}}}
{3}dy$$

while it should be

$$\int_0^1\frac{2e^{\frac{3y}{2}}-2y^{\frac{3}{2}}}{3}dy$$

MarkFL said:
Can you finish now?
Yes I can, I get now the answer $$\frac{4}{9}e^{\frac{3}{2}}-\frac{32}{45}$$

Regards,
 

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