Michael Spivak's Physics Book Will Be Here Soon

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The discussion revolves around the upcoming publication of Michael Spivak's physics book, exploring its content, relevance, and the excitement surrounding its release. Participants express their thoughts on the book's prerequisites, potential insights, and personal experiences with the subject matter.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the book's release, noting its scheduled publication date and their anticipation of its content.
  • There are references to the prerequisites of Spivak's previous works, suggesting that familiarity with his earlier volumes may be necessary to fully appreciate the new book.
  • Participants discuss the intriguing concept of applying abstractions of Lie groups to classical mechanics, indicating a potential area of interest within the book.
  • One participant shares a quote from Spivak regarding his motivations for writing the book, reflecting on the challenges of understanding elementary physics and the distinction between different interpretations of physics.
  • Concerns about the book's cost are raised, with one participant indicating they may not purchase it due to the price.
  • Links to additional resources, including the Table of Contents and excerpts from the book, are shared for further exploration.

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Participants generally express excitement about the book, but there are varying opinions on its accessibility and relevance, particularly regarding the prerequisites and cost. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the book's potential impact and the participants' willingness to engage with it.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the gap in literature related to the topics covered in the book, indicating a perceived need for such a resource. There are also references to personal experiences with the subject matter, which may influence their perspectives.

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His publishing company has a http://www.mathpop.com/mechanics1.htm" isn't telling lies it's slated for publication on December 6th.

I'm insanely excited about this.

(I'm sure someone else noticed this before I did. Let me know if this is redundant.)
 
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well you know what hilbert said :wink:
 
Nice! I was about to think it had been abandoned.
 
Nice, I had no idea that this was in the works, or even that Spivak was still actively writing. It's hard to imagine this being anything less than excellent.

I see from the preface that the first two volumes of his Comprehensive Introduction to Differential Geometry are a prerequisite, though, so it may be a while before I can read it.
 
jbunniii said:
Nice, I had no idea that this was in the works, or even that Spivak was still actively writing. It's hard to imagine this being anything less than excellent.

Check out the link on the bottom of the publisher's page, or click http://www.math.uga.edu/~shifrin/Spivak_physics.pdf" to read some of the material in the book.
 
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Wow abstractions of Lie groups on classical mechanics? Sounds interesting. D:
 
ephedyn said:
Wow abstractions of Lie groups on classical mechanics? Sounds interesting. D:

Really now? Hmm...I might have to get this on my shopping list.
 
"I also want to explore the working of elementary physics ... which I have always found so hard to fathom.

I have written this work in order to learn the subject myself, in a form that I find comprehensible.
By a mathematician I mean some one who has been trained in modern mathematics and been inculcated with its general outlook. ...
"

Mmm yes, I suppose that could have prevented him understanding physics.
:smile:

And by physics I mean ... well, physics, what physicists mean by physics, i.e., the actual study of physical objects ... (rather than the study of symplectic structures on cotangent bundles, for example).


Mm yes too, the first of these does sound closer to what I think of as physics.

:smile:
 
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epenguin said:
"I also want to explore the working of elementary physics ... which I have always found so hard to fathom.

I have written this work in order to learn the subject myself, in a form that I find comprehensible.
By a mathematician I mean some one who has been trained in modern mathematics and been inculcated with its general outlook. ...
"

Mmm yes, I suppose that could have prevented him understanding physics.
:smile:

And by physics I mean ... well, physics, what physicists mean by physics, i.e., the actual study of physical objects ... (rather than the study of symplectic structures on cotangent bundles, for example).


Mm yes too, the first of these does sound closer to what I think of as physics.

:smile:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.math.uga.edu/~shifrin/Spivak_physics.pdf&docid=7200da59a8d320ecb0a596d21a960e4f&a=bi&pagenumber=4&w=1000" cracks me up. "It's not quantum physics I don't understand, it's levers!"
 
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Has anyone received this yet? If so, how is it so far?
 
  • #11
This book costs 90 bucks. I think I'll pass.
 
  • #13
Wow, holy crap.

Maybe I could learn things like the "cotangent bundle" from that book though.

But yeah, there certainly was a gap in this area.
 

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