Michelson and morley interposition of the experiment

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The discussion centers around the Michelson-Morley experiment, specifically the concept of "interposing" the experiment, which refers to the rotation of the apparatus to test for the presence of an aether wind. Participants explore the reasons behind this methodological choice and seek clarification on the terminology used.

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  • Some participants suggest that the interposition was intended to increase the accuracy of the experiment and ensure reliable results.
  • One participant expresses confusion over the term "interpose," seeking clarification on its meaning in the context of the experiment.
  • Another participant explains that "interposing" refers to rotating the apparatus 90 degrees to swap the paths of the light beams, allowing for a check on the consistency of path lengths.
  • A participant notes that the apparatus was designed to measure the speed of light in two different orientations relative to the hypothesized aether wind.
  • There is mention of potential flaws in the apparatus that could affect measurements, leading to the need for the interposition to validate results.
  • One participant introduces the concept of length contraction as a relevant factor in interpreting the experiment's results, referencing historical theories related to the aether hypothesis.

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Participants express varying interpretations of the term "interpose" and its implications for the experiment. While there is some agreement on the purpose of the interposition for error correction, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise methodology and implications of the findings.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of terms and the assumptions underlying the experiment's design. The participants do not fully resolve the technical details of the interposition process or its implications for the results.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying the Michelson-Morley experiment, the historical context of aether theories, and the implications of experimental design in physics.

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Michelson and Morley conducted their famous aether wind experiment and then after finding their first result they interposed the experiment and started it all over again. Why would they do this?
 
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I'd guess that they devised a more accurate experiment and wanted to make sure.
 
Tommy1995 said:
Michelson and Morley conducted their famous aether wind experiment and then after finding their first result they interposed the experiment and started it all over again. Why would they do this?

I cannot understand your question. I looked up the meaning of "interposed":
in•ter•posed in•ter•pos•ing
Definition of INTERPOSE
transitive verb
1 : to place in an intervening position
2 : to put forth by way of interference or intervention
3 : to introduce or throw in between the parts of a conversation or argument

These definitions do not help explain your meaning for me. Will you please describe more specifically the Michelson and Morely experiment you are referring to? Will you please post a reference document? Thank you.

Cheers,
Bobbywhy
 
I'm sorry Bobbywhy that's how my textbooks have all stated it, the meaning of interpose is to turn the whole experiment around, 90degrees.

So for this experiment you can image a + sign to visualise how the light travelled. The Bottom end would be where the light went into the interferometer. After the experiment was finished you can imagine turning the whole experiment 90 degrees clockwise. The new location for the interferometer would now be on the left side of the + sign.

I hope that makes sense?
 
O.k., I found how they are using the term "interpose" here...

http://hscnotes.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/0/4/12042261/space_-_notes_-_part_4.doc

“… they raced two light rays over two courses, one into the supposed aether wind and one across it, then swung the apparatus through 90 degrees to interpose the rays.”

Michelson and Morley were trying to detect an aether wind, and their apparatus was composed of two beams of light which had been split at 90 degrees from each other. They supposed that the direction of one beam might be heading perpendicular to the aether wind and one beam might heading parallel to it.

However, if they did measure a difference between the speed of the two light rays as they were hoping, it might be because their apparatus had some flaw in which one path of light was different from the other. In other words, recording a different speed might be because the path lengths that the two beams traveled were slightly different form each other. So what they did was rotate the apparatus 90 degrees so that they would be swapped with respect to which one was heading parallel to the aether wind and which one would be perpendicular to it.

Note: Having said all that (and I hope I got it right), I think what they actually did was rotate the apparatus gradually, and take measurements from all angles.
 
MikeGomez, Thanks, you have discovered one source that uses "interpose" when describing the M-M experiment. Note that they "interposed the light rays". Not what OP posted: "interposition of the experiment". Well done!

Cheers,
Bobbywhy
 
Nicely said Mike, so what your saying is that by interposing the rays the scientists could check that the path lengths that the light traveled were the exact same, making the experiment valid?
 
Tommy1995 said:
Nicely said Mike, so what your saying is that by interposing the rays the scientists could check that the path lengths that the light traveled were the exact same, making the experiment valid?

Yes. They did it for error correction. This measurement precision issue gets quite tricky though. You see, if space changes such that light travels a shorter or longer distance, so does the length of M&M’s apparatus, and so does any measuring device, and anything at all within that space that we are talking about.

I don’t really think I can explain it very well, but if you are interested in physics this should be a fascinating study for you. Do some research on “Length Contraction”. Here is a quote from…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Length_contraction

“Length contraction was postulated by George Francis FitzGerald (1889) and Hendrik Antoon Lorentz (1892) to explain the negative outcome of the Michelson-Morley experiment and to rescue the hypothesis of the stationary aether (Lorentz–FitzGerald contraction hypothesis).”

Cheers
 

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