Microbes & Methane: Are Microbes "Encased" in Gases?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between microbes and methane, specifically questioning whether microbes can be "encased" in gases like methane as they rise into the atmosphere. The scope includes biological, chemical, and atmospheric considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if microbes can be surrounded by gas molecules, suggesting that this could help propel them into the atmosphere.
  • Another participant humorously references the presence of bacteria in gas bubbles, raising questions about the size of molecules involved in odor perception.
  • A different participant notes that while many microbes are associated with methane, not all produce it, and discusses the potential for microbes to be "encased" in gas molecules when exposed to the atmosphere.
  • It is mentioned that if microbes start out "encased" in methane, the methane would likely diffuse away unless bound in some way, and that microbes could be held aloft by Brownian motion and convection currents.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the categorization of the thread, suggesting it might fit better in a biology section.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the relationship between microbes and methane, with no consensus reached on the specifics of whether microbes can be "encased" in gases or how this process might occur.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of terms like "encased" and the assumptions about the behavior of microbes in gaseous environments, which remain unresolved.

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I apologize. I didn't see any general chemistry categories, so I am posting my question here.
Microbes and methane are inextricable from one another. My question is this. Are microbes "encased" in gases like methane when they rise into the atmosphere? Surely microbes can become particulate in gases. Even though gas molecules are hundreds of times smaller than microbial cells, isn't it possible that each microbial cell be surrounded by hundreds of gas molecules, which is then responsible for propelling microbes high into the atmosphere?
 
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My apologies for laughing, but reading your post led my mind back to one of the most delightfully funny things I've ever seen.

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I'd wager there are lots of bacteria in those fart bubbles. Based on (google google google):

By: Laurie L. Dove | Updated: Jul 29, 2021​

But that begs the questions; "How big does a poop molecule have to be before you can smell it, and are bacteria bigger than that?"
 
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moriah said:
I apologize. I didn't see any general chemistry categories, so I am posting my question here.
Microbes and methane are inextricable from one another. My question is this. Are microbes "encased" in gases like methane when they rise into the atmosphere? Surely microbes can become particulate in gases. Even though gas molecules are hundreds of times smaller than microbial cells, isn't it possible that each microbial cell be surrounded by hundreds of gas molecules, which is then responsible for propelling microbes high into the atmosphere?
Earth Sciences/Chemistry; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosol .
 
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moriah said:
I apologize. I didn't see any general chemistry categories, so I am posting my question here.
Microbes and methane are inextricable from one another. My question is this. Are microbes "encased" in gases like methane when they rise into the atmosphere? Surely microbes can become particulate in gases. Even though gas molecules are hundreds of times smaller than microbial cells, isn't it possible that each microbial cell be surrounded by hundreds of gas molecules, which is then responsible for propelling microbes high into the atmosphere?
There many, many, many kinds of microbes. Not all of them are associated with methane.
Some of them make methane, some don't. If they eat carbon dioxide and get energy from combining it with hydrogen, then they can make methane.

Any microbe in the air is going to be "encased" in gas molecules of some kind if it directly exposed to the atmosphere. If they started out "encased" in methane, the methane would diffuse away, unless it was bound in some way.
Like other small particles in the air they could be held aloft by Brownian motion and convection currents.

Many modern day microbes have a strong outer cell wall (distinct and much tougher thanteh fragile cell membrane. This protects from a lot of environmental challenges.

I would have put this thread in the biology section.
 
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moriah said:
I apologize. I didn't see any general chemistry categories, so I am posting my question here.
Microbes and methane are inextricable from one another. My question is this. Are microbes "encased" in gases like methane when they rise into the atmosphere? Surely microbes can become particulate in gases. Even though gas molecules are hundreds of times smaller than microbial cells, isn't it possible that each microbial cell be surrounded by hundreds of gas molecules, which is then responsible for propelling microbes high into the atmosphere?
What level are you?can I ask? In terms of school, uni, age.
 

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