Middle School teacher: battery storage

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the safety and practicality of setting up a battery-powered light bulb experiment in a middle school classroom. Participants explore concerns about heat generation, secure connections, and alternative setups for educational demonstrations in the context of an electricity and magnetism unit.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the safety of a permanent setup with electrical tape, noting the risk of overheating and potential short circuits.
  • Another participant warns against permanently taping the setup, citing past incidents of fires caused by shorted batteries and recommending covering battery terminals when not in use.
  • A suggestion is made to use a battery holder instead of tape for a more reliable connection, with a link to a product for purchase.
  • Some participants propose using multi-experiment kits or modular circuit sets like Little Bits for safer and more versatile demonstrations.
  • One participant discusses the importance of matching light power to battery power to prevent overheating and mentions the gradual dimming of bulbs as batteries deplete.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach for the battery setup, with various suggestions and concerns raised about safety and practicality. Multiple competing views remain regarding the reliability of different connection methods and the overall safety of the proposed experiments.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for secure connections and the potential for batteries to overheat, but there are unresolved questions about the best practices for maintaining safety in classroom experiments.

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Hello PF,
I am a middle school teacher in Humboldt county, CA and teach physical science to eighth graders. We are beginning our electricity and magnetism unit and have students have experimented with making a light bulb illuminate using a battery and copper wire. My question is, if we make a more permanent set-up with the wire attached to the battery and light bulb with electrical tape, would it be safe to keep our battery somewhere in the classroom? My concern is that the materials would become too hot and I need to create a safe place where students can observe the battery still powering the light bulb so their safety is not compromised. Are there any suggestions or previous set-ups that were successful? Thanks!
 
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You're doing an experiment like this?



Personally I wouldn't tape the setup together permanently as it makes it easier for the loose wire to accidentally short the battery and using a D cell as the source will get hot very quickly.

There were a some news stories floating around a few years about accidental fires started by 9v batteries left in junk drawers where the + and - posts could touch creating a short and starting a fire. The recommendation was to cover the posts with electrical when disposing of them and keeping them in their original packaging until you're ready to use them.

http://fireprotectiontesting.com/dangers-of-9-volt-batteries/
 
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LK5 said:
Hello PF,
I am a middle school teacher in Humboldt county, CA and teach physical science to eighth graders. We are beginning our electricity and magnetism unit and have students have experimented with making a light bulb illuminate using a battery and copper wire. My question is, if we make a more permanent set-up with the wire attached to the battery and light bulb with electrical tape, would it be safe to keep our battery somewhere in the classroom? My concern is that the materials would become too hot and I need to create a safe place where students can observe the battery still powering the light bulb so their safety is not compromised. Are there any suggestions or previous set-ups that were successful? Thanks!
Holding the wires on the ends of a battery with electrical tape does not make a reliable connection. Just go to a local Radio Shack or similar store (or online), and get a 2xAA or 2xC battery holder. Then you can use whatever means to hook the wires up to a 2x<whatever> light bulb.

http://www.reuk.co.uk/shopImages/4-aa-battery-holder.jpg
4-aa-battery-holder.jpg
 
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Also even more fun is the Little Bits sets:



They use magnets to create click together circuits. They even have a smart home kit where you activate the circuit via a smart device and the internet.
 
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berkeman said:
Holding the wires on the ends of a battery with electrical tape does not make a reliable connection. Just go to a local Radio Shack or similar store (or online), and get a 2xAA or 2xC battery holder. Then you can use whatever means to hook the wires up to a 2x<whatever> light bulb.

http://www.reuk.co.uk/shopImages/4-aa-battery-holder.jpg
4-aa-battery-holder.jpg
Thank you for the responses and suggestions. I think I will look online for the battery holder; I'll respond with how long our bulb stayed illuminated (hopefully).
 
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LK5 said:
My concern is that the materials would become too hot and I need to create a safe place where students can observe the battery still powering the light bulb so their safety is not compromised.

If you match the light power to the battery power, say, as is routinely done in a flashlight, and have secure electrical connections, over heating should not be a problem. You'll also have to decide when the battery is 'dead' because as you know a light will gradually get dimmer and dimmer. In solid state devices, a 1.5 volt dry cell battery might no longer function at say 1.1 volts, but your light will still offer some illumination. And there is a decent chance once the light can no longer been seen, if you open the circuit, and leave if off for a few hours, the battery is likely to 'recover' enough to once again briefly illuminate the light.
 
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