Misunderstanding part of pascals identity algebraic proof

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This discussion focuses on the algebraic proof of Pascal's identity, specifically addressing the simplification of terms involving factorials. The user expresses confusion regarding the common denominator in the proof, particularly how the terms combine to yield a simplified expression. Key points include the definitions of factorials, specifically how \( k! \) can be expressed as \( k \cdot (k-1)! \) and how \( (n-k+1) \cdot (n-k)! \) simplifies to \( (n-k+1)! \). The discussion concludes with a clear understanding of how the numerator simplifies to \( (n+1)n! \) and the denominator to \( k!((n+1)-k)! \).

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I understand the combinatorial proof and the common sense behind why it works but lately I am trying to play around with proofs since I am still new to them. So I understand part of this:

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Where I am getting confused is the step where we combine terms. The denominator of the first term is (n-k+1)k!(n-k)! , and the denominator of the second term is k(k-1)!(n-k+1)!

Then on the next line the denominator is k!(n-k+1)!.

How is that a common denominator for those two terms? I see there is a (n-k+1)! in both terms...but in the second term there is a k(k-1)! and in the first term there is a k!(n-k)!...how do those two terms somehow both reduce to k!?
 
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It works because of the way the factorial is defined:
$$k! = k \cdot \underbrace{(k - 1) \cdot (k - 2) \cdots 2 \cdot 1}_{{} = (k - 1)!}$$
Similarly, you can show that (n - k + 1) * (n - k)! = (n - k + 1)!.

This is actually the reason for taking the first step: multiplying denominator and numerator by the same number so that the denominators become equal.
 
CompuChip said:
It works because of the way the factorial is defined:
$$k! = k \cdot \underbrace{(k - 1) \cdot (k - 2) \cdots 2 \cdot 1}_{{} = (k - 1)!}$$
Similarly, you can show that (n - k + 1) * (n - k)! = (n - k + 1)!.

This is actually the reason for taking the first step: multiplying denominator and numerator by the same number so that the denominators become equal.

Ok, that makes sense. But how does [(n-k+1)n!kn!]/[k!(n-k+1)!] simpylify to [(n+1)n!]/[k!((n+1)-k)!]

Totally lost as to how that step happened
 
CuriousBanker said:
Ok, that makes sense. But how does [(n-k+1)n!kn!]/[k!(n-k+1)!] simpylify to [(n+1)n!]/[k!((n+1)-k)!]

Totally lost as to how that step happened
For the numerator,
(n-k+1)n!kn!can you see that this is:
[(n-k+1)+k]n! ?

...which equals:
(n+1)n!
For the denominator, surely you can see that n-k+1=(n+1)-k
 
oay said:
For the numerator,
(n-k+1)n!kn!can you see that this is:
[(n-k+1)+k]n! ?

How? (n−k+1)n!kn! = [(n-k+1)n!]*kn!, whereas [(n−k+1)+k]n! = [(n-k+1)n!]+kn!

For the denominator, surely you can see that n-k+1=(n+1)-k

Yeah, that part is obvious
 
CuriousBanker said:
How? (n−k+1)n!kn! = [(n-k+1)n!]*kn!, whereas [(n−k+1)+k]n! = [(n-k+1)n!]+kn!
Sorry, I made the mistake of quoting your misquote. :redface:

The numerator is actually (n-k+1)n!+kn! which is [(n-k+1)+k]n! which is (n+1)n!
 
oay said:
Sorry, I made the mistake of quoting your misquote. :redface:

The numerator is actually (n-k+1)n!+kn! which is [(n-k+1)+k]n! which is (n+1)n!

Ah, I understand now, thank you so much! That was bugging me for hours
 

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