Mixture Problem: Find Amount of Stronger Solution Needed

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The discussion revolves around a mixture problem involving two salt solutions with different concentrations. Participants explore how to determine the amount of a stronger solution needed to achieve a desired concentration in the final mixture. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving approaches related to chemistry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a method using the equation $0.5(x)+0.2(5-x)=0.3(5)$ to find the amount of stronger solution needed, arriving at $x=1.67$ gallons.
  • Another participant suggests an alternative equation $5\cdot0.2+x\cdot0.5=(5+x)0.3$ and asks for the value of $x$, indicating this is a weighted average problem.
  • A later reply humorously questions the interpretation of the mixture, suggesting confusion about the two 5-gallon mixtures involved.
  • One participant confirms the previous calculations and clarifies that the problem involves replacing part of the weaker solution with the stronger one to achieve the desired concentration.
  • Another participant outlines their approach, deriving the equation $1 + 0.5x = 0.3(x+5)$ based on the total amount of salt in the solutions.

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Participants express differing methods and interpretations of the problem, with no consensus on the correct approach or final answer. Multiple competing views on how to set up the equations remain evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants assume the availability of the stronger solution without specifying limits, and there are unresolved mathematical steps in deriving the equations. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the problem setup.

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A chemist has 5 gallons of salt solution with
a concentration of 0.2 pound per gallon and another solution
with a concentration of 0.5 pound per gallon.
How many gallons of the stronger solution
must be added to the weaker solution to get
a solution that contains 0.3 pound per gallon?

this my attempt

let $x=$ amount of stronger solution needed(in gallons)
$5-x=$ amount of weaker solution(in gallons)

$0.5(x)+0.2(5-x)=0.3(5)$

$x=$ 1.67 gallons

Is this correct? if not can you tell me why my method didn't work. thanks!
 
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We are going to add $x$ gallons of the stronger solution to the 5 gallons of weaker solution. So, we require, by equating two expressions for the total amount of salt:

$$5\cdot0.2+x\cdot0.5=(5+x)0.3$$

What do you get for $x$?

Do you see this is a weighted average?
 
MarkFL said:
We are going to add $x$ gallons of the stronger solution to the 5 gallons of weaker solution. So, we require, by equating two expressions for the total amount of salt:

$$5\cdot0.2+x\cdot0.5=(5+x)0.3$$

What do you get for $x$?

Do you see this is a weighted average?

that's stubborn weighted average again? :D:p

so there are two 5 gallons of mixture here? one with .2 lb/gal and the other .5lb/gal? Am I correct?

x = 2.5 gallons
 
Correct! :D

The problem you actually solved is how much of the weaker solution must be replaced by the stronger solution to get 5 gallons of a solution with 0.3 lb./gal concentration of salt. :D

bergausstein said:
...so there are two 5 gallons of mixture here? one with .2 lb/gal and the other .5lb/gal? Am I correct?...

You added this...we are not told how much of the stronger solution is available, but are left to assume that enough is available to get the desired solution.
 
:D good
 
Hello, bergausstein!

Here is my approach to mixture problems.

A chemist has two solutions.
Solution A: concentration of 0.2 pound of salt per gallon .
Solution B: concentration of 0.5 pound per gallon.
How many gallons of solution B must be added to 5 gallons of solution A to get a solution that contains 0.3 pound per gallon?
He has 5 gallons of A which has 0.2 pound salt per gallon.
This contains: .(0.2)(5) = 1 pound of salt.

He adds x gallons of B which has 0.5 pound salt per gallon.
This contains: .0.5x pounds of salt.

Hence, the mixture will contain 1 + 0.5x pounds of salt.But we know that the mixture has x +5 gallons
. . which has 0.3 pounds of salt per gallon.
This contains 0.3(x+5) pounds of salt.We just described the final amount of salt in two ways.

There is our equation! . . . 1 + 0.5x \;=\;0.3(x+5)
 

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