How much of a 5 gallon 40% salt solution should be replaced

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a 5-gallon solution that is 40% salt, with the goal of replacing part of this solution with pure water to achieve a final concentration of 15%. Participants are exploring how to set up and solve this problem using systems of linear equations.

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  • Participants discuss the initial setup of the problem, including the amount of salt in the original solution and the desired amount in the final solution. There are attempts to express the problem in terms of variables representing the volumes of the salt solution and water.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, suggesting that the original poster has already identified the necessary amount of salt. There is an exploration of different methods to express the problem, including a system of equations and matrix representation, though not all participants agree on the necessity of using a matrix approach.

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There is a mention of a "writer's block" experienced by one participant, indicating potential challenges in articulating their thoughts on the problem. The discussion also reflects on the simplicity of the system, suggesting that a more straightforward solution may be possible without complex methods.

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Hello!
1. Homework Statement

Here is the problem I can't solve, and will be grateful for your help on this - please, guid me to the understanding of how to solve such problems. The difficulty lies in replacing some of the solution with water. It would be much easier to solve if we add water.

How much of a 5 gallon 40% salt solution should be replaced with pure water to obtain 5

gallons of a 15% solution?

I have to solve it by creating a system of linear equations.

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Here are my initial thoughts, but I couldn't go beyond:

If we have 5 gallons of 40% salt solution, hence we have 2 gallons of salt in 5 gallons.
The final solution should contain 0.75 gallons of salt (5 x 0.15); therefore, I have to replace X amount of 5 gallons of 40% solution with Y amount of water to get 5 gallons of 15% solution.

X + Y = 5
Thank you!
 
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ducmod said:
Hello!
1. Homework Statement

Here is the problem I can't solve, and will be grateful for your help on this - please, guid me to the understanding of how to solve such problems. The difficulty lies in replacing some of the solution with water. It would be much easier to solve if we add water.

How much of a 5 gallon 40% salt solution should be replaced with pure water to obtain 5

gallons of a 15% solution?

I have to solve it by creating a system of linear equations.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution

[/B]
Here are my initial thoughts, but I couldn't go beyond:

If we have 5 gallons of 40% salt solution, hence we have 2 gallons of salt in 5 gallons.
The final solution should contain 0.75 gallons of salt (5 x 0.15); therefore, I have to replace X amount of 5 gallons of 40% solution with Y amount of water to get 5 gallons of 15% solution.

X + Y = 5
Thank you!

You need to replace X gallons or 40% solution with X gallons of pure water, to keep the volume at 5 gallons.
 
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You already figured out how much salt you want.
What volume of 40% solution would give you that much salt?
Keep that much in there, and fill the rest up with pure water.
 
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RUber said:
You already figured out how much salt you want.
What volume of 40% solution would give you that much salt?
Keep that much in there, and fill the rest up with pure water.
Oh ) Thank you very much! Had a "writer's block" yesterday )
0.4x = 0.75
x = 1.875 the amount of 40% solution in the final 15% solution
5 - 1.875 = 3.125
I don't see, though, why would I need to construct a system of linear equations, and then turn them into a matrix to solve with Cramer's rule
 
If you were going to build a system of equations, you would do something like:
## \frac{0.40x + 0y }{x+y} = 0.15 \\ x+y = 5, ##
where x is the volume of 40% solution and y is the volume of pure water.
To write this as a matrix equation, it would look like:
##\begin{bmatrix} 0.4& 0 \\ 1 & 1 \end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} x\\ y \end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix} .75\\ 5 \end{bmatrix}##
However, this is a very simple system and you were able to solve it without using Cramer's rule.
The simplified system works out to exactly what you did above:
##0.40 x = .75\\ x+y = 5.##
 
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