Mobius Band as a Quotient Topology

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The discussion centers on Example 5.55 from Martin Crossley's book, Essential Topology, specifically regarding the Mobius Band as a quotient topology. Participants analyze the equivalence relation defined as (x,y) ∼ (x',y') if either (x,y) = (x',y') or x = 1 - x' and y - y' = ±1. The necessity of including both conditions in the relation is debated, with emphasis on the properties of equivalence relations such as reflexivity and symmetry. The discussion clarifies that the full relation is essential for accurately representing the Mobius Band's topology.

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  • Understanding of equivalence relations in topology
  • Familiarity with quotient topologies
  • Basic knowledge of the Mobius Band structure
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  • Study the properties of equivalence relations in depth
  • Explore quotient topology concepts further, particularly in relation to surfaces
  • Investigate the construction and properties of the Mobius Band
  • Review Examples 5.53 and 5.54 in Essential Topology for additional context
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I am reading Martin Crossley's book, Essential Topology.

I am at present studying Example 5.55 regarding the Mobius Band as a quotient topology.

Example 5.55 Is related to Examples 5.53 and 5.54. So I now present these Examples as follows:

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I cannot follow the relation (x,y) \sim (x', y') \Longleftrightarrow \text{ either } (x,y) = (x', y') \text{ or } x = 1 - x' \text{ and } y - y' = \pm 1Why do we need (x,y) = (x', y') in the relation? Indeed, why do we need y - y' = \pm 1?Surely all we need is (x,y) \sim (x', y') \Longleftrightarrow x = 1 - x' \text{ and } y - y' = -1Can anyone explain how the relation (x,y) \sim (x', y') \Longleftrightarrow \text{ either } (x,y) = (x', y') \text{ or } x = 1 - x' \text{ and } y - y' = \pm 1 actually works to produce the Mobius Band?Peter
 

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I cannot follow the relation (x,y) \sim (x', y') \Longleftrightarrow \text{ either } (x,y) = (x', y') \text{ or } x = 1 - x' \text{ and } y - y' = \pm 1Why do we need (x,y) = (x', y') in the relation? Indeed, why do we need y - y' = \pm 1?Surely all we need is (x,y) \sim (x', y') \Longleftrightarrow x = 1 - x' \text{ and } y - y' = -1Can anyone explain how the relation (x,y) \sim (x', y') \Longleftrightarrow \text{ either } (x,y) = (x', y') \text{ or } x = 1 - x' \text{ and } y - y' = \pm 1 actually works to produce the Mobius Band?Peter
Well, it's an equivalence relation, so it has to be reflexive by definition. Thus, if ##(x,y)=(x',y')##, then we must have ##(x,y)\sim(x',y')##.

Equivalence relations are symmetric as well, so if ##(x,y)\sim(x',y')##, then we must have ##(x',y')\sim(x,y)##. If ##y-y'=1##, then ##y'-y=-1##.
 
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