Modeling Depreciation: Understanding the Relationship Between Time and Value

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The discussion revolves around modeling depreciation, specifically how the value of an asset decreases over time. Participants explore the mathematical representation of depreciation, including differential equations and exponential decay models, in the context of a specific example involving a printer's value over four years.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially proposes a differential equation dP/dt = -0.05P to model the depreciation, leading to a solution involving exponential decay.
  • Another participant suggests the correct formula for depreciation is P = P_0 * (0.95)^t, noting that this can also be expressed using natural logarithms.
  • There is confusion about why the instantaneous rate of change dP/dt is not equal to -0.5P, with participants discussing the difference between average and instantaneous rates of change.
  • A later reply clarifies that the average rate cannot be substituted for the instantaneous rate, emphasizing the importance of understanding the distinction in the context of integration.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the depreciation rate, particularly regarding the distinction between average and instantaneous rates. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the intuitive understanding of the mathematical models presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the relationship between average rates and instantaneous rates in the context of exponential decay, but do not resolve the underlying confusion regarding the depreciation model.

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so my bro ahd an algebra 2 midterm and a question was this:

) A printer costs $35,000 (how old are these questions lol) but it depreciates 5% a year. What is the value by the 4th year?

ok so being an overtly complex person i tried to model a differential equation of this just for the kicks.

At first I thought

dP/dt=-0.05P

where P is price

and the solution is Po*exp(-0.5t) where Po=35000

however this is wrong. So I assumed I did not know r from dP/dt=-rP and worked the problem by finding the initial values.

so the solution gives me P=exp(-.051293t)Po which is correct.

I don't grasp intuitively the answer. why is dP/dt=.051293P when the problem says it goes down 0.5 each year so I assume P changes over time by -0.05P per year?
 
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The correct equation is, of course.

P = P_0 * (0.95)^t.

Another way of writing this is:

P = P_0 * exp(ln(0.95)*t).

As you probably have already guessed, ln(0.95) is the number you need.

ln(0.95) = -.051293, approximately.
 
yeah, that's true. i already knew that but, why isn't dP/dt=-0.5P! it does not make sense in my mind. it seems that the changing rate of P is -0.5 P per year
 
Almost certainly because 0.5 isn't the instantaneous rate, but the "average" yearly rate.

What you should say is that the integral from 0 to 1 of e^r equals -0.05...

then e^r = 0.95 and r = ln(0.95).

In fact, that's exactly it. You can't substitute the average (or cumulative, to put it in better terms) rate for the instantaneous rate.
 
that makes a lot of sense! because i can still integrate from 0 to .1 and that wouldn't obviously be right.
 

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