Modeling Suction Force: Tips & Solutions

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The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of suction force in a physics context, specifically how it relates to net force calculations. Key questions include identifying the two components that constitute suction force and whether the same suction cup is used in different scenarios, which could affect the results. Additionally, the conversation explores whether the direction of added acceleration remains consistent across cases. Clarification is sought on the specific task or problem being addressed. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for a deeper comprehension of suction force dynamics in modeling scenarios.
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Homework Statement
I have 2 scenarios.
Scenario 1: I am lifting an object with a suction cup using a robot arm which then accelerates. I know the values for suction force, object weight, acceleration, and suction area of the suction cup.

Scenario 2: I am lifting another object with a suction cup but the object has a different weight. I only know the object weight and acceleration in this scenario. However I need to find the suction area while making sure it is proportional to the object weight and suction area from the first scenario. How can I solve for this?
Relevant Equations
F=ma or W (suction force) = A (suction area) * P (vacuum value)
At a total loss here
 
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##\text{net force }ma=\text{weight}+\text{suction force}##, I guess?
 
If you read it over a bunch of times you can probably get an idea of what they're asking you to do.

A couple of questions might help (or not) :
- what two components make up "suction force" ?
- is it the same suction cup in both scenarios ? If not, what would be the relevant difference.
- is the direction component of added acceleration the same in both cases ? If so, what is the direction component.

What are they actually asking you to do ?
 

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