Modelling the height of a block up a slope with time

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The discussion focuses on modeling the height of a block (mass M1) on a slope, connected to another mass (M2) via a frictionless pulley. The key equations include the force of gravity down the slope (m1gsin(theta)), the force of friction (um1gcos(theta)), and the acceleration formula (a=(M2g-(m1gsin(theta) + um1gcos(theta)))/m1). The derived expression for height as a function of time is height = 0.5*(M2g-(m1gsin(theta) + um1gcos(theta)))/m1*sin(theta)*t^2, which requires further validation and consideration of both masses' accelerations.

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  • Understanding of Newton's laws of motion
  • Familiarity with forces acting on inclined planes
  • Knowledge of kinematic equations
  • Concept of tension in strings and pulleys
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  • Analyze the forces acting on both masses M1 and M2 separately
  • Explore the implications of static vs. kinetic friction coefficients
  • Learn about the dynamics of connected bodies in motion
  • Investigate the effects of varying the angle of the slope (theta) on the system's behavior
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1. Homework Statement


A block, of mass M1, on the rough slope shown is attached to another mass M2 by a light, inextensible string which passes over a frictionless pulley as shown in the diagram (the coefficient of friction between the block and the slope is u ). The block is released from rest. Find an expression for the height of the block above the bottom of the slope as a function of time. (You should consider the full range of behaviour that may happen for different values of the parameters).

Homework Equations


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F(gravity down slope) = mgsin(theta)
F(friction down slope) = umgcos(theta)
f=ma
s = ut +1/2at^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Force of gravity on block is m1gsin(theta)
Force of friction on block is um1gcos(theta)
Force needed to push block up slope at constant speed = m1gsin(theta) + um1gcos(theta)
If M2g > Force needed then block will accelerate up slope with a=(M2g-(m1gsin(theta) + um1gcos(theta)))/m1
vertical component of that acceleration = asin(theta)
height = ut + 1/2at^2
height = 0.5*(m2g-(m1gsing(theta) + um1gcos(theta)))/m1)sin(theta)*t^2
I'm pretty sure this answer is wrong as it is so complex, but would just like either confirmation that it is right/wrong and where to go
 
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oMattz said:
Force of friction on block is um1gcos(theta)
The problem statement does not discriminate static and kinetic coefficients, but it does ask you to consider all possibilities. What would be a more circumspect statement than the above?
oMattz said:
If M2g > Force needed then block will accelerate up slope
True. What if it isn't, though?
oMattz said:
with a=(M2g-(m1gsin(theta) + um1gcos(theta)))/m1
Don't forget M2 will accelerate too. Consider the tension and analyse the forces on each mass separately.
 

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