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The discussion revolves around a hypothetical one-electron element, crazyidium, focusing on its energy level scheme and related photon interactions. Participants explore ionization energy, photon absorption, and emission processes, as well as the implications for photoelectron ejection from a metal.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to clarify the energy levels of the atom and the equations governing transitions. Questions arise regarding the correct formulation of energy levels for hydrogenic atoms and the implications of photon interactions with the atom.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants seeking clarification on the energy level equations and others providing insights into the necessary information for solving the problem. There is a recognition that the energy level scheme contains essential data for analysis.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the equations relevant to the energy levels, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge. The original poster's work is noted as unclear, which may affect the discussion's progression.

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Homework Statement


The energy level scheme for the mythical one-electron element crazyidium(the names not really relevant). The potential energy of an electron is taken to be zero at an infinite distance from the nucleus (a) How much energy does it take to ionize an electron from the ground state (b) A 15 eV photon is absorbed by the crazyidium atom, what are the possible wavelengths can be emitted photons have (c) what will happen if a photon with energy of 8eV strikes a crazyidium atom? why? (d) if photons emitted from crazyidium transitions n=4 to n=2 and from n=2 to n=1 will eject photoelectrons from an unknown metal, but the transition n=3 to n=2 will not, what are the limits (maximum and minimum possible values) of the work function of the metal (e) if a 40eV photon strikes the electron in the ground state what will be the deBroglie wavelength of the ejected electron. THIS ATOM IS NOT HYDROGEN!



Homework Equations


KE= E - \phi
KE=(1/2)mv2
h=pλ
E=hf
Me = 9.11x10-31
Mp = 1.67x10-27
E=pc
h=6.63x10-34 J(seconds)
or = 4.14x10-15eV(seconds)
e=1.6x10-19C
hc=1240eV(nm)


The Attempt at a Solution


My work is a mess, and this sheet is old so i can't exactly read it
 
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Coolstorybro said:
The energy level scheme for the mythical one-electron element crazyidium(the names not really relevant).
Can't help much if I don't see the level scheme.

Coolstorybro said:

Homework Equations


KE= E - \phi
KE=(1/2)mv2
h=pλ
E=hf
Me = 9.11x10-31
Mp = 1.67x10-27
E=pc
h=6.63x10-34 J(seconds)
or = 4.14x10-15eV(seconds)
e=1.6x10-19C
hc=1240eV(nm)
You seem to be missing the most important one: What is the equation for the energy levels of a hydrogenic atom?
 
sorry
n=infinity___________ 0eVn=4_______________-2eV
n=3_______________-5eV

n=2_______________-10eVn=4_______________-20eV

I'm not sure what the equation is for the energy levels of a hydrogenic atom,

E=E(initial)(1/(n(initail)squared) + 1/(n(final)squared))

I'm not sure about that equation, i can't remember that equation or if that's the right one or not
 
Coolstorybro said:
sorry
n=infinity___________ 0eV


n=4_______________-2eV
n=3_______________-5eV

n=2_______________-10eV


n=4_______________-20eV

I'm not sure what the equation is for the energy levels of a hydrogenic atom,

E=E(initial)(1/(n(initail)squared) + 1/(n(final)squared))

I'm not sure about that equation, i can't remember that equation or if that's the right one or not
Looks like you were aiming at the Rydberg formula for the energy of transitions:
$$
\Delta E = h c R \left( \frac{1}{n_i^2} - \frac{1}{n_f^2} \right)
$$
with ##R## the Rydberg constant. But since the energy of all levels all already given in the problem, you actually don't need that equation.

That level scheme contains all the information need to solve the problem. You'll have to be more specific as to where you have problems.
 

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