Modern thoughts on the origin of organisms.

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The discussion revolves around the origins of life on Earth, specifically exploring theories regarding the transition from inorganic and organic molecules to the first living cells. Participants delve into concepts such as prebiotic chemistry and abiogenesis, examining the scientific understanding and conjectures surrounding these processes.

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  • One participant expresses curiosity about the lack of a widely accepted theory explaining how life originated from inorganic molecules, summarizing a common narrative involving heat, light, and chemical reactions leading to complex molecules like amino acids and RNA.
  • Another participant introduces the term "prebiotic," explaining that it refers to a stage of molecular evolution that may have preceded the first appearance of life, while noting the ambiguity in defining life at this boundary.
  • Some participants emphasize that the current understanding of life's origins is largely conjectural, with no definitive answers available, and highlight the limitations of experimental approaches to recreate the conditions of early life.
  • Links to external articles and resources are provided for further reading on prebiotic evolution and abiogenesis, suggesting that these topics are still under active investigation.

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Participants generally agree that the origins of life remain an unresolved area of science, with multiple competing views and conjectures present in the discussion.

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The discussion acknowledges the shaky definitions surrounding the concept of life and the limitations of current experimental methods to recreate the origins of life, indicating that many assumptions remain unaddressed.

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So, I'm a teenager, and have always been interested in precisely how life began on earth. Is there any widely accepted and thuroughly proven theory about how you got from inorganic molecules, or even organic molecules, to the first cell? All I've ever gotten as a respons was pretty much this:

Earth had a bunch of atoms and molecules before life existed. Through heat/light/electrical energy, these atoms and molecules began to react and bond and whatnot. Eventually, because of the sheer amount of stuff out there, complex things like Amino acids began to form. This kept going on for a while, until you had stuff like RNA, that could self-replicate. Then you had cells.

There must be a better theory out there...
 
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Google on prebiotic. Of course that is a word from Greek meaning before life, and the modern theory is that a stage of pre-life based on molecules in some way preceded the first appearance of life. You need to be aware that the definitin of life itself, at the boundary like this, is somewhat shaky. We don't consider viruses to be alive, but the things immediately prior to the first protocell might have been very like simple viruses, that is to say protein/RNA molecular combinations.

Anyway prebiotic is the buzzword used for this epoch and prebiotic evolution is a conjectured evolution of molecules that may have taken place then. It is all conjecture, although there are efforts to make things happen in test tubes that could support different hypotheses.
 
As selfAdjoint stated, it's pretty much all conjecture still. This is one area where science does not have answers. Even if we could experimentally induce the formation of life from non-living precursors, we still have no way, at least at this time, of knowing that's how it actually happened when life on Earth came into existence; we could only say it's one way it might have happened.
 
You might want to check this article.
http://www.pubmedcentral.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=12077305
 
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