Modified Formula for Friction-Affected Oscillation of Box on Spring Platform

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the oscillation of a box on a spring platform, particularly focusing on the effects of friction on the motion. The original poster seeks to modify a known formula for velocity to account for frictional forces.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the setup of the problem, questioning the relationship between the box and the spring platform, and whether the box is oscillating or dropping onto the platform. There are discussions about the role of air friction and its impact on the energy of the box.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the theory of the Damped Harmonic Oscillator, but no consensus has been reached on the specific modified formula or the complete understanding of the scenario.

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There are indications of inadequate problem description and missing details about the motion of the box, which may affect the understanding of the friction's role in the oscillation.

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Friction Problem. Help!

Homework Statement


In the absence of friction, we know v = (2gd)^(1/2). But with a correction factor that accounts for friction what would be the modified farmula?

d=distance of box from the spring platform.
g=acceleration due to gravity


The Attempt at a Solution


Basically i am observing a box jumping or oscallating on the spring platform.
This equation is derived from Work Energy Theorem
 
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The description of the problem is inadequate.
 
I assume you are talking about air friction reducing the energy of the box while it is airborn and therefore the maximum speed with which it hits the spring platform?
 
Hi. No I don't understand where the box is in relation to the spring platform. Is something dropping onto something else ? You haven't described the problem at all ! You start by quoting a formula.
 
Sorry, I was addressing bilalbajwa. Since he talks about oscillations I guess that the box is jogged up and down by the spring platform - sort of like someone on a jumping board over a pool.
 
I am talking about the air friction.
 
Do the box stay on the platform or is it shot up and drops down onto it again (repeatedly)?
 
Hi,
Thanks for replying.
As i said box is oscillating up and down. And its this jumping comes to a complete rest after some time.
 
I am getting the idea that what you are looking for is the theory describing the "Damped Harmonic Oscillator"

Click on Mechanics on this page:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html"

then on Periodic motion on the framed diagram

and finally on Damped motion

to get to a mathematical description of the the theory of the Damped Harmonic Oscillator. You can find more information if you scroll down on the page that you land on finally.

Feel free to aks more questions here concerning the theory you find there.

Why are you interested in this motion?
 
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