Molecular Orbital Theory: 2s/3s & 2p Orthogonality Questions

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The discussion focuses on the orthogonality of molecular orbitals, specifically the 2s and 3s orbitals, as well as the 2p and 2s orbitals. Orthogonality is defined as the condition where the integral of the product of two orbitals equals zero, expressed mathematically as ∫ψ₁*ψ₂ dx = 0. The presence of nodes in the 2s orbital contributes to this orthogonality, as seen in the hydrogen atom example where the 2s orbital changes sign. The discussion clarifies that orthogonality is a result of the orbitals being eigenfunctions of the Hamiltonian, rather than solely due to the Pauli Exclusion Principle.

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I have a few questions on molecular orbital theory which I hope you guys can help me settle!

So I understand orthogonality meaning that the molecular orbitals have zero overlap, due to the Pauli Exclusion Principle.

How do a 2s and 3s molecular orbital achieve orthogonality? Is it due to a node? Does the 3s electron density penetrate the inner 2s at all?

And how do 2p and 2s orbitals achieve orthogonality?
 
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Master J said:
So I understand orthogonality meaning that the molecular orbitals have zero overlap, due to the Pauli Exclusion Principle.

It doesn't mean zero overlap, but rather that for two orbitals, \psi_1, \psi_2 the integral \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\psi_1^\ast\psi_2 dx = 0
So they can overlap as much as they want, as long as the overall integral becomes zero.

This isn't due to the exclusion principle, but due to the fact that the orbitals are eigenfunctions of the Hamiltonian and form an orthonormal basis of a Hilbert space.

How do a 2s and 3s molecular orbital achieve orthogonality? Is it due to a node? Does the 3s electron density penetrate the inner 2s at all?

2s and 3s are atomic orbitals. But just look at the hydrogen case (just to simplify, I'll take 1s and 2s):
\psi_{1s} = e^{-r}\quad\psi_{2s}=(1-\frac{r}{2})e^{-r/2}

Obviously the 2s orbital has a node, it must change sign at r=2 given the (1-r/2). Integrate \int_0^{\infty}r^2\psi_1\psi_2 dr and see what you get.
(the r^2 comes in because you're integrating the radial wave function spherically)

And how do 2p and 2s orbitals achieve orthogonality?

The same way.
 

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