Moment generating function (Probability)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of moment generating functions (MGFs) for probability distributions, particularly focusing on the nature of their zeros. Participants explore whether all zeros of the MGF are purely imaginary under certain conditions related to the moment problem being determined.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines the moment generating function as M(x) = ∫ab extP(t) dt and questions if all zeros of M(x) are purely imaginary when the moment problem is determined.
  • Another participant corrects the notation in the definition of M(x) and reiterates the question about the nature of the zeros, providing an example with a uniform distribution.
  • A third participant notes that the hyperbolic sine function has purely imaginary roots and suggests that positive and even probability distributions might lead to similar results for other functions, such as the Bessel function J0(ix).
  • There is a repeated inquiry about the conjecture regarding purely imaginary roots and a request for elaboration on how this conjecture was formed.
  • One participant raises a point of contention regarding the value of M(0), questioning if it equals 1 for all probability distributions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions under which all zeros of the MGF are purely imaginary, with no consensus reached on the conjecture or the implications of M(0).

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific probability distributions and mathematical functions, but the discussion remains open-ended regarding the generality of the claims made about the zeros of the MGF.

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given a probability distribution P(x) >0 on a given interval , if we define the moment generatign function

[tex]M(x)= \int_{a}^{b}dt e^{xt}P(t)dt[/tex]

my question is , if the moment problem is determined, then could we say that ALL the zeros of M(x) are PURELY imaginary ? [tex]ia[/tex] or this is only for certain P(x) ??
 
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zetafunction said:
given a probability distribution P(x) >0 on a given interval , if we define the moment generatign function

[tex]M(x)= \int_{a}^{b}dt e^{xt}P(t)dt[/tex]
Too many "dt"s! You mean
[tex]M(x)= \int_a^b e^{xt}P(t)dt[/tex]

my question is , if the moment problem is determined, then could we say that ALL the zeros of M(x) are PURELY imaginary ? [tex]ia[/tex] or this is only for certain P(x) ??
Look at a very simple example: x is uniformly distributed between -1 and 1. That is, P(x)= 1/2 for all x between -1 and 1. Then

[tex]M(x)= \frac{1}{2}\int_{-1}^1 e^{xt}dt= \frac{e^x- e^{-1}}{2x}= \frac{sinh(x)}{x}[/tex]

That is equal to 0 for x= 0.
 
but for [tex]x= 2\pi i m[/tex] is 0 for every integer 'm' hyperbolic sine has ALL pure imaginary roots, perhaps in order to have only imaginary roots you only need positive and even probability distribution P(x)= P(-x) for example surely you can try with a certain probability distribution to get a similar result for Bessel function [tex]J_0 (ix)[/tex] that will have ONLY imaginary roots.
 
zetafunction said:
my question is , if the moment problem is determined, then could we say that ALL the zeros of M(x) are PURELY imaginary ?

Perhaps you could elaborate a bit further on how you arrived at the conjecture?


HallsofIvy said:
[tex]M(x)= \frac{1}{2}\int_{-1}^1 e^{xt}dt= \frac{e^x- e^{-1}}{2x}= \frac{sinh(x)}{x}[/tex]
That is equal to 0 for x= 0.

Doesn't M(0)=1 for all probability distributions?
 

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