Moment of inertia of a cylinder about perpendicular axes

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia of a uniform, solid cylinder about its perpendicular axes, with specific parameters including length, radius, and mass. The original poster presents an integral setup based on a Cartesian coordinate system and expresses uncertainty regarding the complexity of the integral involved.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the setup of the integral for calculating the moment of inertia, with some questioning the choice of coordinate system and the numerical factors in the integral. There is mention of using the parallel axis theorem as an alternative approach.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the integral setup and suggesting alternative methods. Some express uncertainty about specific numerical factors and the evaluation of the integral, while others acknowledge the potential for simplification through different approaches.

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Participants note that the original poster's choice of axes may affect the interpretation of the problem, and there is a mention of the complexity of the integral leading to confusion. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the problem without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



Calculate the moment of inertia of a uniform, solid cylinder about it's perpendicular axes. The cylinder has length L, radius R, and total mass M. It is centered on the origin with the z-axis running through the center of it's circular faces.

Homework Equations



I = \iiint r^{2}_{\bot} \rho dV

The Attempt at a Solution



I can immediately see that due to symmetry I_{x} = I_{y}.

I'll choose the x-axis to work with (so our cylinder is spinning about the x-axis). I can see that r_{\bot} = \sqrt{z^{2}+y^{2}} so r^{2}_{\bot} = z^{2} +y^{2}.

Now I need to work out my bounds for the integration. I chose a cartesian coordinate system (only as I couldn't see if cylindrical would give any simplification, but I'm sure I could've missed something) and I determined the bounds by drawing several diagrams and after some scratch work I found:

-R \leq x\leq R
-L/2 \leq y\leq L/2
-\sqrt{R^{2}-x^{2}} \leq z \leq \sqrt{R^{2}-x^{2}}

Which gives an integral:

I = \rho \int_{-R}^{R} \int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \int_{-\sqrt{R^{2}-x^{2}}}^{\sqrt{R^{2}-x^{2}}} (z^{2}+y^{2})\:dzdydx

I = \rho\int^{R}_{-R} \: [\:\frac{8L}{3}(\sqrt{R^{2}-x^{2}})^{3}\:+\:\frac{L^{3}}{6}\sqrt{R^{2}-x^{2}}\:] \:dx

And this is where I'm not so sure about it. The integral looks particulary nasty (wolfram gave me a solution with several arctan's). I don't see where I went wrong here.
 
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Sentin3l said:
I = \rho \int_{-R}^{R} \int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \int_{-\sqrt{R^{2}-x^{2}}}^{\sqrt{R^{2}-x^{2}}} (z^{2}+y^{2})\:dzdydx

This looks ok. But it appears that you have let the y-axis "run through the center of its circular faces" rather than the z axis. It won't make any difference.

I = \rho\int^{R}_{-R} \: [\:\frac{8L}{3}(\sqrt{R^{2}-x^{2}})^{3}\:+\:\frac{L^{3}}{6}\sqrt{R^{2}-x^{2}}\:] \:dx

I don't quite get the numerical factor of 8/3 for the first term.

And this is where I'm not so sure about it. The integral looks particulary nasty (wolfram gave me a solution with several arctan's). I don't see where I went wrong here.

Yes, the integral can be expressed in terms of arctan's. It's not too hard to evaluate the expression at the limits.

Alternate approach (if you can use the parallel axis theorem): slice the cylinder into thin circular disks.
 
The 8/3 comes from evaluating the z and y integrals. I could have got the constant wrong but it's still a constant.

How would you use the parallel axis theorem?
 
Sentin3l said:
How would you use the parallel axis theorem?

You can use the parallel axis theorem to express the moment of inertia of a disk about the green axis in terms of the moment of inertia about a diameter of the disk (blue axis) and the distance Z.
 

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That seems significantly easier. Thanks.
 

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