Moment of Inertia of a Rectangular Picture Frame

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The discussion revolves around determining the moment of inertia of a rectangular picture frame composed of four thin wooden pieces. Participants are exploring the relationship between the dimensions of the frame and the rotational inertia about a specified axis.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the derivation of the term Lsin(angle) in relation to the distance from the axis of rotation. There are attempts to clarify the integration process for calculating the moment of inertia based on a small element of the frame.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the mathematical reasoning behind the moment of inertia calculation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration of the moment of inertia for a small element, but there is no explicit consensus on the derivation of certain terms.

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There are references to specific dimensions and mass per unit length, but the exact values are not provided in the posts. Additionally, there is mention of a broken link that may hinder access to further details.

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Homework Statement
A picture frame consists of 4 thin pieces of wood glued together. Each wooden piece has the same mass per unit length lambda. The dimensions of each piece is given below. Determine the rotational inertia of the frame about the dashed axis.
Relevant Equations
I = mr^2, for rod at edge I = 1/3 mr^2
I total = I1+I2+I3....+In
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I know the answer, but am not certain how they got Lsin(angle) for R?
 
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kepherax said:
Homework Statement: A picture frame consists of 4 thin pieces of wood glued together. Each wooden piece has the same mass per unit length lambda. The dimensions of each piece is given below. Determine the rotational inertia of the frame about the dashed axis.
Homework Equations: I = mr^2, for rod at edge I = 1/3 mr^2
I total = I1+I2+I3...+In

https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/250905

I know the answer, but am not certain how they got Lsin(angle) for R?
The link does not work for me. Please post an attempt, per forum rules.
 
I don't know why it won't let me edit this, but here is the problem and my attempt.

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kepherax said:
how they got Lsin(angle) for R?
Consider a small element dx of one of the spars length L, distance x from the end at the axis.
Its distance from the axis is ##x\sin(\theta)##, so its MoI about the axis is ##\lambda dx (x\sin(\theta))^2##. Then integrate, or observe that this is the same as if the spar were the same mass but length ##L\sin(\theta)## and normal to the axis.
 

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