Moment of Inertia of a Triangular Prism

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The discussion centers on calculating the moment of inertia of a triangular prism rotating about the z-axis. The initial calculations suggest that the moment of inertia is I = (-8/3)(a^2)M, but concerns are raised about the negative value, indicating a potential error. Participants point out that the limits of integration may not be correctly handled, as the upper limit of y should depend on x. Additionally, it is noted that the products of inertia are expected to be zero due to the prism's symmetry. Overall, the calculations need to be revisited for accuracy.
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Homework Statement


A triangular prism of mass M, whose two ends are equilateral triangles parallel to the xy plane with side 2a, is centered on the origin with its axis on the z axis. Find its moment of inertia for rotation about the z axis. Without doing any integrals write down and explain its two products of inertia for rotation about the z axis.

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I've arrived at a soultion, but I'd like to see what other people think, if it is right or not.

I know that the moment of inertia (here, just I), is this:

I = integral of [ (x^2 + y^2) dm]
and
p = M/V, so
dm = pdV, so
I = p * integral of [ (x^2 + y^2) dV], so
I = p * triple integral of [ (x^2 + y^2) dx dy dz]

This will need to be done as the sum of two integrals, since there is a discontinuity in the change in y.

For the first integral:
The limits of the x integral are -a to 0.
The limits of the y integral are -a/√3 to 2a/√3.
The limits of the z integral are, let's say, 0 to h.

I evaluated this to be p*h*(-4/3)(a^4)/(√3)
Since p = M/V and V = (h*a^2)/(√3), the first integral equals
M*(-4/3)(a^2)

For the second integral:

The limits of the x integral are 0 to a.
The limits of the y integral are 2a/√3 to -a/√3.
The limits of the z integral are 0 to h.

I evaluated this to be, of course, the same thing,
M*(-4/3)(a^2)

So,
I = (-8/3)(a^2)M

That should be the moment of inertia for rotation about the z axis.

The products of inertia should both be zero (because of symmetry).

Does this seem right? More importantly, is it right? Thank you for looking at it.
 
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Oijl said:
I know that the moment of inertia (here, just I), is this:

I = integral of [ (x^2 + y^2) dm]
and
p = M/V, so
dm = pdV, so
I = p * integral of [ (x^2 + y^2) dV], so
I = p * triple integral of [ (x^2 + y^2) dx dy dz]

This will need to be done as the sum of two integrals, since there is a discontinuity in the change in y.

For the first integral:
The limits of the x integral are -a to 0.
The limits of the y integral are -a/√3 to 2a/√3.
The limits of the z integral are, let's say, 0 to h.

The limits of integration are not being handled correctly. For a fixed value of x, the upper limit of y will depend on x.

Oijl said:
I evaluated this to be p*h*(-4/3)(a^4)/(√3)
Since p = M/V and V = (h*a^2)/(√3), the first integral equals
M*(-4/3)(a^2)
For the second integral:
I evaluated this to be, of course, the same thing,
M*(-4/3)(a^2)

So,
I = (-8/3)(a^2)M

The negative value for the moment of inertia is a red flag.

Oijl said:
The products of inertia should both be zero (because of symmetry).
Yes.
 
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