Moment of inertia of ring with 3 masses on

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The problem involves calculating the moment of inertia of a system consisting of three particles fixed on a circular ring, forming the corners of an equilateral triangle. The masses of the particles and the ring, as well as the radius of the ring, are provided.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss different calculations for the moment of inertia, questioning the conditions under which the moment of inertia could be zero. There is also mention of using the Parallel Axis Theorem and the need to include contributions from both the ring and the particles.

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The discussion is ongoing with various calculations being presented. Some participants express confusion about the correct approach and the contributions to the moment of inertia, while others provide guidance on including all relevant components in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of correctly applying the Parallel Axis Theorem and ensuring all mass contributions are accounted for in the moment of inertia calculation. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings regarding when the moment of inertia could be zero.

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Homework Statement


Three particles, each with mass m = 0.5 kg, are fixed on a uniform circular ring of mass M = 2 kg, radius a = 0.6 m and centre O, to form the corners of an equilateral triangle. What is the moment of inertia of this system?

Homework Equations


I = Σma2

The Attempt at a Solution


I = 3(2 x 0.62) = 2.16 kgm2

I'm confused because it is either that or zero and I can never tell when it is zero.

Thank you.
 
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j3dwards said:

Homework Statement


Three particles, each with mass m = 0.5 kg, are fixed on a uniform circular ring of mass M = 2 kg, radius a = 0.6 m and centre O, to form the corners of an equilateral triangle. What is the moment of inertia of this system?

Homework Equations


I = Σma2

The Attempt at a Solution


I = 3(2 x 0.6) = 1.728 kgm

I'm confused because it is either that or zero and I can never tell when it is zero.

Thank you.
The moment of inertia is never zero, unless the mass is zero.

Draw a sketch of the ring and the masses. Use the Parallel Axis Theorem to calculate the MOI of this assembly.
 
SteamKing said:
The moment of inertia is never zero, unless the mass is zero.

Draw a sketch of the ring and the masses. Use the Parallel Axis Theorem to calculate the MOI of this assembly.

So the centre of mass is at O so is the answer just I = 3(2 x 0.62) = 2.16 kgm2
 
j3dwards said:
So the centre of mass is at O so is the answer just I = 3(2 x 0.62) = 2.16 kgm2
Don't forget to include the contribution to the MOI from the ring.
 
SteamKing said:
Don't forget to include the contribution to the MOI from the ring.

Oh I've been doing this very wrong. So is it: I = Σma2 + MR2 = 3(0.5 x 0.62) + (2 x 0.62) = 1.26 kgm2
 
j3dwards said:
Oh I've been doing this very wrong. So is it: I = Σma2 + MR2 = 3(0.5 x 0.62) + (2 x 0.62) = 1.26 kgm2
That looks much better.
 
SteamKing said:
That looks much better.
Thank you so much!
 

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