Moment of Inertia: Where Does the 1/2 Come from?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of moment of inertia, specifically questioning the origin of the factor of 1/2 in the formula for a solid disk and its application to different sections of the disk, such as semicircles and quadrants.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the reasoning behind the 1/2 factor in the moment of inertia formula, with some suggesting that it can be derived through integration. Others question why the moment of inertia for different sections of the disk is related to the whole disk's moment of inertia.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, with some providing insights into the relationships between the moment of inertia of different shapes. There is a mix of understanding regarding the derivation and application of the formulas, and no explicit consensus has been reached.

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There is mention of a potential difference in class level, with some participants suggesting that the discussion may be influenced by whether the course is calculus-based or not. Additionally, the original poster expresses uncertainty about the necessity of memorizing formulas versus understanding their derivation.

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I=[tex]\Sigma[/tex]mr^2


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Our teacher said we don't need to memorize the Moment of inertia formulas because there is always a table we can look up for most objects. However we ran into problem in the HW.

Where does the 1/2 come from? Is that something we were just suppose to know? And why is I is the same for a whole circle or 1/2 a circle or even 1/4 of a circle?
 
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Hi kyin01,

These facts are straightforward to prove by performing the integral in the definition of the moment of inertia. However, since you say your teacher told you to just memorize the formulas, perhaps you are in a non-calculus based class?

However, once you have done the integral and know that the moment of inertia of a solid disk is [tex]\frac{1}{2}MR^2[/itex] for an axis perpendicular to the disk and through it's center, here is the reason the other two cases (semicircle and quadrant) have their formulas.<br /> <br /> So imagine that you have an entire disk. Since it is made up of two identical halves (including their relationship to the axis), the moment of inertia of each half must be half the moment of inertia of the whole disk.<br /> <br /> Similarly, the moment of inertia of each quadrant must equal one-fourth the moment of inertia of the entire disk.<br /> <br /> Can you see how these will lead to (1/2)MR^2 for all three cases?[/tex]
 
so if the moment of inertia must equal 1/4 the moment of inertia of the entire disk why isn't it 1/8MR^2?
 
kyin01,

Because the mass of the quadrant is only one-fourth the mass of the whole disk.

If radius is R=1 and M=4 for the whole disk, I=(1/2)MR^2 = 2 kg m^2.

Broken up into four pieces, each piece has a mass of M=1, so

I=(1/2) M R^2=(1/2)(1)R^2 = 0.5 kg m/^2 which is one fourth the original.
 

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