Momentum Conservation and Rebound Velocity Comparison

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of momentum conservation and rebound velocities in different collision scenarios involving a pellet, a car, and two surfaces: modeling clay and a metal plate. Participants explore how energy transfer differs between elastic and inelastic collisions and its effect on the car's motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the differences in energy absorption and transfer between the clay and metal plate, questioning how these factors influence the car's movement. They also explore the implications of elastic versus inelastic collisions and how momentum changes in each case.

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There is an active exploration of the principles of momentum and kinetic energy conservation. Some participants have provided insights into the mathematical relationships governing the scenarios, while others are questioning the implications of these relationships on the car's velocity and energy transfer.

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Participants are considering the assumptions regarding the nature of the collisions (elastic vs inelastic) and the specific conditions of the problem, such as the masses involved and initial velocities. There is an emphasis on understanding the details of momentum changes and energy conservation without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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My guess is that, the with the modelling clay the pellet is absorbed initially by the clay, (it sicks in) some of the energy is lost through the clay but some is also transferred to the car giving it the means to move forward. With the metal plate, I feel it could be the transfer in energy to car is quicker and much less is absorbed by the plate (possibly minimal vibrations).

for part 2, I wrote it bounced directly backwords and at the same speed, it means the impact was made exactly at the horizontal meaning. But how do I link this in with it being able to travel further?
 
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Look at the problem in terms of the conservation of momentum and the conservation of kinetic energy.
The term you want to know more about it "elastic collision".
 
Oh so, with the metal plate, it appears the collision was elastic meaning, kinetic energy is conserved, therefore the car will travel further as no loss of energy, whereas the clay absorbed some of the energy before it reached the car, meaning not all of the total initial energy was transferred to the car, thus why it traveled less.
 
Don't forget about the conservation of momentum part.
 
The momentum is conserved for both.
 
But the momentum changes are different - how?
 
Simon Bridge said:
But the momentum changes are different - how?

it changes as in, the pellet is going backwards = -velocity therefore even more velocity in the forward motion by the car to balance out the momentum total?
 
Fresko said:
it changes as in, the pellet is going backwards = -velocity therefore even more velocity in the forward motion by the car to balance out the momentum total?

There you go. :approve:
 
Well done - you see the important parts are in the details.

if the pellet is mass m and the car mass M, and the initial velocity of the pellet is +u,
then the first case has mu=(m+M)v - so v=mu/(M+m) as the final velocity of the car.

In the second case, if the rebound velocity is -u, then v=2mu/M

2mu/M > mu/(M+m)

You could work out what the rebound velocity would have to be to make v come out the same - also compare what happens to the total kinetic energy.
 

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