Momentum Conservation and Rebound Velocity Comparison

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The discussion focuses on the comparison of momentum conservation and rebound velocity in two collision scenarios: one involving modeling clay and the other a metal plate. In the clay scenario, some energy is absorbed, resulting in less energy transferred to the car, leading to reduced forward motion. Conversely, the metal plate allows for an elastic collision, conserving kinetic energy and enabling the car to travel further. The participants analyze how the momentum changes differently in each case, emphasizing that while momentum is conserved, the velocity outcomes differ based on the nature of the collision. The discussion concludes with a mathematical comparison of the final velocities and kinetic energy in both scenarios.
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My guess is that, the with the modelling clay the pellet is absorbed initially by the clay, (it sicks in) some of the energy is lost through the clay but some is also transferred to the car giving it the means to move forward. With the metal plate, I feel it could be the transfer in energy to car is quicker and much less is absorbed by the plate (possibly minimal vibrations).

for part 2, I wrote it bounced directly backwords and at the same speed, it means the impact was made exactly at the horizontal meaning. But how do I link this in with it being able to travel further?
 
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Look at the problem in terms of the conservation of momentum and the conservation of kinetic energy.
The term you want to know more about it "elastic collision".
 
Oh so, with the metal plate, it appears the collision was elastic meaning, kinetic energy is conserved, therefore the car will travel further as no loss of energy, whereas the clay absorbed some of the energy before it reached the car, meaning not all of the total initial energy was transferred to the car, thus why it traveled less.
 
Don't forget about the conservation of momentum part.
 
The momentum is conserved for both.
 
But the momentum changes are different - how?
 
Simon Bridge said:
But the momentum changes are different - how?

it changes as in, the pellet is going backwards = -velocity therefore even more velocity in the forward motion by the car to balance out the momentum total?
 
Fresko said:
it changes as in, the pellet is going backwards = -velocity therefore even more velocity in the forward motion by the car to balance out the momentum total?

There you go. :approve:
 
Well done - you see the important parts are in the details.

if the pellet is mass m and the car mass M, and the initial velocity of the pellet is +u,
then the first case has mu=(m+M)v - so v=mu/(M+m) as the final velocity of the car.

In the second case, if the rebound velocity is -u, then v=2mu/M

2mu/M > mu/(M+m)

You could work out what the rebound velocity would have to be to make v come out the same - also compare what happens to the total kinetic energy.
 
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