Momentum conservation for a free-falling body in GR

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The discussion revolves around the conservation of momentum for a free-falling body in the context of General Relativity, specifically focusing on the mathematical formulation involving the metric and Christoffel symbols.

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  • Participants explore the implications of contracting the metric with the Christoffel symbol and question the vanishing of certain terms in the resulting equation. There is a focus on understanding the symmetry of indices and the nature of the terms involved.

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Some participants have identified potential issues with the notation and the indices used in the equations. There is an ongoing exploration of the cancellation of terms when contracted with momentum, and a suggestion to explicitly write out the terms to clarify the reasoning.

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Homework Statement
The conservation law for the energy-momentum vector of a free-falling massive particle is: $$m\frac{\mathrm{d}p^\alpha}{\mathrm{d}t} = -\Gamma^\alpha_{\beta\mu}p^\beta p^\mu$$. Show the conservation law for the covector reads: $$m\frac{\mathrm{d}p_\beta}{\mathrm{d}t} = \frac{1}{2}g_{\mu\nu,\beta}p^\beta p^\mu$$
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I: $$m\frac{\mathrm{d}p^\alpha}{\mathrm{d}t} = -\Gamma^\alpha_{\beta\mu}p^\beta p^\mu$$
II: $$m\frac{\mathrm{d}p_\beta}{\mathrm{d}t} = \frac{1}{2}g_{\mu\nu,\beta}p^\beta p^\mu$$
Hello everyone!
It seems I can't solve this exercise and I don't know where I fail.
By inserting the metric on the lefthand side of I. and employing the chain rule, the equation eventually reads (confirmed by my notes from the tutorial):
$$m\frac{\mathrm{d}p_\delta}{\mathrm{d}t} = \Gamma^\gamma_{\beta\delta}g_{\mu\gamma}p^\beta p^\mu$$
Now contracting the metric with the Christoffel symbol and renaming indices gives $$m\frac{\mathrm{d}p_\beta}{\mathrm{d}t} = \frac{1}{2}\left[g_{\mu\beta,\nu}+g_{\nu\mu,\beta} - g_{\nu\beta,\mu} \right]p^\nu p^\mu$$
Now I don't understand why two terms in the brackets vanish. Is there some symmetry in the indices I'm missing?
Thanks for any hints.
 
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complexconjugate said:
Homework Statement:: Show the conservation law for the covector reads: $$m\frac{\mathrm{d}p_\beta}{\mathrm{d}t} = \frac{1}{2}g_{\mu\nu,\beta}p^\beta p^\mu$$
Something's wrong here. On the left side, ##\beta## is a lone index. But on the right side, ##\beta## is a summation index.

$$m\frac{\mathrm{d}p_\beta}{\mathrm{d}t} = \frac{1}{2}\left[g_{\mu\beta,\nu}+g_{\nu\mu,\beta} - g_{\nu\beta,\mu} \right]p^\nu p^\mu$$
Now I don't understand why two terms in the brackets vanish. Is there some symmetry in the indices I'm missing?
Thanks for any hints.
In general, none of the terms within the bracket vanish or cancel. However, after contracting the terms in the bracket with ##p^\nu p^\mu##, you will see that there will be some cancellation.
 
TSny said:
Something's wrong here.
I noticed, I copied the Latex code and forgot to swap out the beta... the upper beta should be a nu.
TSny said:
you will see that there will be some cancellation
I think I see what you mean, can you tell me how to justify it properly? Something like symmetry between nu and mu because it's both times contracted with the momentum?

Thank you a lot!
 
complexconjugate said:
I think I see what you mean, can you tell me how to justify it properly? Something like symmetry between nu and mu because it's both times contracted with the momentum?
Yes

$$m\frac{\mathrm{d}p_\beta}{\mathrm{d}t} = \frac{1}{2}\left[g_{\mu\beta,\nu}+g_{\nu\mu,\beta} - g_{\nu\beta,\mu} \right]p^\nu p^\mu$$

To see what happens, consider the first and last terms in the bracket of the right-hand side and contract them with ##p^\nu p^\mu##. Write out these terms explicitly; i.e., carry out the sum over ##\mu## and ##\nu##. You'll probably never need to do that again :oldsmile:

The idea is that ##g_{\mu\beta,\nu} - g_{\nu\beta,\mu}## is antisymmetric with respect to ##\mu## and ##\nu## and it's being contracted with ##p^\nu p^\mu## which is symmetric with respect to ##\mu## and ##\nu##
 
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