Momentum Concepts: Struggling to Find Answers

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The discussion revolves around two momentum concept problems involving kinetic energy and momentum comparisons between a small truck and a large truck. Participants are exploring the relationships between kinetic energy, mass, and momentum in the context of these vehicles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to relate kinetic energy and momentum through algebraic manipulation of the equations. Questions arise about the implications of equal kinetic energies on the momentum of the trucks, as well as the conditions under which an object can possess kinetic energy without momentum and vice versa.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved. Some participants have provided algebraic insights and suggested approaches to compare the momenta of the trucks based on their kinetic energies. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, particularly regarding the implications of mass and velocity on momentum.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of the problem without specific numerical data, relying on theoretical relationships. There is a noted confusion regarding the algebraic expressions and their meanings in the context of the problem.

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Hello I'm stuck on two momentum concept problems and can't figure them out, I was hoping someone could provide help.


1.A small truck and a large truck have the same kinetic energies, which truck has the greater momentum? Justify your answer.

Well i know Ek=.5mv^2 and that momentum p=mv I've tried rearranging these into each other and can't find a clear answer. I think it is the large truck but at the same time the small one will have a greater velocity so I don't know what one will have more momentum.


2. Can an object have kinetic energy but not momentum? Can an object have momentum but no kinetic energy? explain.

I said no to both because if you have kinetic energy you have a velocity, and if you have momentum then you have a veolocity therefore kinetic energy. I want to make sure I'm right here though.
 
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For 1), if they have the same KE then what is the ratio of their velocities ?
Use that ratio to compare their momenta.

Part 2) is correct.
 
1. Strictly speaking, size isn't the relevant quantity but mass is. It's ofcourse meant that the larger truck has a greater mass.
Since you know E=\frac{1}{2}mv^2 and p=mv the idea is to write the energy in terms of the momentum and mass, since those are the quantities that are 'given'. Write the kinetic energy by eliminating the velocity v in favor of the momentum p. Now what does it tell you?

2. That's correct.
 
Ok I am trying to figure out what you mean by writing the equations in terms of m and v. After playing around with the algebra for a while i got that P1=(P2V2)/V1 But i can't figure out what use this is. (2 is the larger truck 1 is the smaller one, I assume when it says smaller it references mass). I know since the kinetic energies are the same that V1 must be greater then V2. but in this equation i have 3 unknows so I don't know where to go.

Another thing I tried is E=.5PV so P=2E/V. I THINK this is what I am supposed to find. So this means that the smaller truck will have less momentum since it has a greater velocity. Am i correct?
 
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You have a big truck and a small truck. So m2 > m1, say.

KE1 = KE2
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(1/2)m1.v1² = (1/2)m2.v2²
m2/m1 = (v1/v2)²
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Momentum
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P1 = m1.v1
P2 = m2.v2

P1/P2 = ?

Can you finish it off now ?
 
k... So my other one was wrong then. I did this and got (p1/p2)=v2/v1 and since v2 will be less then v1 this means that p2 is larger right? Bah I am getting so confused by such a small question, I did fine with all the ones with actual data but this one is confusing me.
 
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Ok I am trying to figure out what you mean by writing the equations in terms of m and v.
I said writing the kinetic energy in terms of the momentum p by eliminating v. You 'll get \frac{1}{2}mv^2=p^2/2m.
Let's call the mass of the small truck m and the mass of the big truck M. Since you know the energies are equal, you know that:
\frac{p_s^2}{2m}=\frac{p_l^2}{2M}
the subscript s and l stand for small and large respectively. Now what does it tell you?
 

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