(Momentum) Two people on a platform

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The problem involves two people on a platform that is floating and the dynamics of momentum when one person throws a ball to the other. The scenario includes considerations of mass, motion, and the effects of internal forces within a closed system.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of linear momentum but questions their reasoning regarding the displacement of the platform after the ball is thrown and caught. Some participants suggest considering the center of mass of the entire system instead of focusing solely on momentum.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of the center of mass in understanding the system's behavior, but there is no explicit consensus on the resolution of the original poster's confusion.

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Participants are discussing the implications of internal forces and the system's behavior under the assumption that no external forces are acting on it. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in analyzing the motion of the platform and the ball.

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Homework Statement


Two people are standing on a 2.0-m-long platform, one at each end. The platform floats parallel to the ground on a cushion of air. One person throws a 6.0-kg ball to the other, who catches it. The ball travels horizontally. Excluding the ball, the total mass of the platform and people is 118 kg. Because of the throw, this 118-kg mass recoils. How far does it move before coming to rest again?

Homework Equations


Conservation of linear momentum:
(M1 * Vf1) + (M2 * Vf2) = (M1 *Vo1) + (M2 * Vo2)

The Attempt at a Solution


When the ball is thrown forwards, the platform should accelerate backwards because the air resistance is negligible. When the other person catches the ball the platform should move back to its original spot because the momentum of the ball is transferred to the platform, so I thought the answer was a displacement of zero, but its not. Can someone show me what wrong with my solution?
 
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what you actually have to take into consideration is Center of Mass. If initially before throwing the ball, the system was at rest, then all throughout the system should be at rest in the x-direction regardless of whether the ball is moving or is caught by the other person because no external force is acting on the system in x-direction.

System includes ball+both people+platform. essentially everything on the platform
 
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I didn't even need to use linear momentum, thanks.
 
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I didn't even need to use linear momentum, thanks.

yeah, true. glad to help:smile:
 

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