Solving for Platform Recoil in Momentum Problem with Two People | HW Help

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The problem involves two people standing on a platform that floats on a cushion of air, with one person throwing a ball to the other. The scenario examines the recoil of the platform due to the conservation of momentum when the ball is thrown and caught, with a focus on how far the platform moves as a result.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of momentum and the implications for the center of mass of the system. Questions are raised about the initial velocity of the ball and how the center of mass changes during the throw and catch.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the center of mass and the absence of external forces, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of information regarding the velocity of the ball when thrown, which is crucial for further analysis. Participants are also considering the implications of the system's center of mass in relation to the platform's movement.

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Homework Statement


Two people are standing on a 2.0 m long platform, one at each end. The platform floats parallel to the ground on a cushion of air, like a hovercraft. one person throws a 6.0 kg ball to the other, who catches it. The ball travels nearly horizontally. Excluding the ball, the total mass of the platform and people is 118 kg. Because of the throw, this 118 kg mass recoils. How far does it move before coming to rest again?


Homework Equations


Momentum after = momentum before


The Attempt at a Solution


I realized that conservation of momentum applied, but I couldn't set up any equations.
 
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You might consider approaching this problem by thinking about what happens to the position of the center of mass of the entire system.
 
Do you know the velocity with which the ball was thrown?
 
TSny said:
You might consider approaching this problem by thinking about what happens to the position of the center of mass of the entire system.

May you please clarify? I've been stumped for a long time.
 
Take the system to consist of the platform, the two people, and the ball. There are no external forces acting horizontally on the system. So, the center of mass of the system relative to the ground will remain in the same place.

Suppose the person on the left end of the platform initially holds the ball. Where would the center of mass of the system be relative to the center of the platform? When the person on the right has the ball, where is the center of mass of the system relative to the center of the platform? From this, try to see how far the platform must move in order to keep the center of mass at the same location relative to the ground.
 

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