Momentum - velocity due to height

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the momentum of a ball thrown vertically upward. The original poster attempts to find the momentum at maximum height and halfway to maximum height, using the mass of the ball and its initial velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and energy, questioning what is conserved during the ball's ascent. The original poster expresses confusion about how to calculate velocity at halfway to maximum height and references a relationship between height and velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the conservation laws relevant to the problem, while others have attempted to derive equations relating height and velocity. There is an ongoing exploration of the algebra involved, with one participant urging careful handling of the equations to avoid errors.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a lack of clarity regarding the teacher's comments on height and velocity, which may impact their understanding of the problem. Additionally, there is an indication that the calculations presented may not align with physical expectations, as one participant points out an error in the resulting velocity exceeding the initial velocity.

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Homework Statement



A 0.20 kg ball is thrown straight up into the air with an initial speed of 19 m/s. Find the momentum of the ball at the following locations.

(a) at its maximum height
(b) halfway to its maximum height

Variable:
ball = .2kg
Vi = 19 m/s

Homework Equations



p = mv

The Attempt at a Solution



a) since the object is at max height the velocity is 0. therefore momentum is also 0.
b)This is where I ger lost...
I tried using the equation for momentum but I am not sure on how to solve for velocity.
My teacher said something about height being = to v^2 but he said this quickly and not sure what the usefulness of that is...

It would be greatly appreciated if I could get help ASAP
 
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During ascent, gravity acts on the ball. As a result, the ball's vertical momentum is not conserved. What is conserved?
 
Total velocity is conserved...?
 
How many laws of conservation have you heard of?
 
energy and momentum
 
ngorecki said:
energy and momentum
Good. I've explained why you can't using conservation of momentum here, so that leaves ...?
 
Alright so
mgh = 1/2mv^2
Cancel mass
gh = 1/2v^2
9.8(h) = .5(19)^2
h = 1768.9

Then mgh(.5h) = 1/2mv^2
Cancel mass
9.8(.5*1768.9) = 1/2v^2
8667.61 = 1/2v^2
17335.22 = v^2
131.66 = v
 
ngorecki said:
Alright so
mgh = 1/2mv^2
Cancel mass
gh = 1/2v^2
9.8(h) = .5(19)^2
h = 1768.9

Then mgh(.5h) = 1/2mv^2
Cancel mass
9.8(.5*1768.9) = 1/2v^2
8667.61 = 1/2v^2
17335.22 = v^2
131.66 = v
I strongly urge you to get into the habit of working with the algebra as long as possible, only plugging numbers in right at the end. It will help you avoid mistakes, help spot mistakes, and help others follow what you're doing.
Your answer is clearly wrong since it exceeds the initial velocity.
 

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