Monotonicity of the ratio of two power series

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The discussion revolves around the monotonicity of the ratio of two finite power series, specifically the function defined as \(\frac{\sum_{j=0}^k [(at)^j/j!]}{\sum_{j=0}^k [(bt)^j/j!]}\) for constants \(a\), \(b\) (with \(a > b > 0\)) and \(t > 0\). Participants explore whether this function is monotonically increasing for arbitrary \(K\), considering both theoretical and mathematical reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that as \(k\) approaches infinity, the function behaves like an increasing exponential function, but questions whether this holds for finite \(k\).
  • Another participant clarifies that the polynomials involved are partial sums and suggests a transformation of the function to analyze its behavior.
  • A mathematical expression for the derivative of the function is provided, indicating that the denominator is positive for \(t > 0\), and the numerator's behavior is analyzed to assess monotonicity.
  • One participant proposes that the \(i\)th derivative of the numerator is always greater than that of the denominator for \(i < k\), suggesting that the numerator accelerates faster than the denominator.
  • Another participant agrees with the acceleration argument but expresses uncertainty about how to rigorously prove the monotonicity based on the derivatives.
  • A later reply presents an alternative expression for the ratio, which aligns with the previous points but does not resolve the question of monotonicity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the monotonicity of the function, with some supporting the idea that it is increasing while others remain uncertain about the proof. No consensus is reached on the overall behavior of the function for arbitrary \(K\).

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the problem, particularly regarding the behavior of derivatives and the conditions under which the monotonicity may hold. There are unresolved aspects related to the second term in the derivative expression and its impact on the overall conclusion.

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I'm thinking about the following function, which is a ratio of two finite power series. I'm trying to prove the monotonicity of this function, for arbitrary K.
[tex]\frac{\sum_{j=0}^k [(at)^j/j!]}{\sum_{j=0}^k [(bt)^j/j!]}[/tex], and [tex]a>b>0, t>0[/tex]
I know that if k goes to infinity, the function becomes an exponential func. which is increasing in the domain [itex]t \in [0,\infty][/itex]. That is easy. But I'm wondering if this statement is true for arbitrary K.

Any thoughts?
 
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Thanks for the post! Sorry you aren't generating responses at the moment. Do you have any further information, come to any new conclusions or is it possible to reword the post?
 
First off, the polynomials in your function are called partial sums rather than finite power series.

Let ##p(t)=\sum_{j=0}^{k}\frac{t^j}{j!}##. Then your function is ##\frac{p(at)}{p(bt)}##. We're going to replace ##t## with ##\frac{t}{b}## to get ##\frac{p(ct)}{p(t)}## with ##c=a/b>1##. Now we will examine the simplified function by taking the derivative and letting ##k>0##.

Note that ##p^{\prime}(t)=p(t)-\frac{t^k}{k!}##.

##\frac{d}{dt}\frac{p(ct)}{p(t)}=\frac{cp^{\prime}(ct)p(t)-p(ct)p^{\prime}(t)}{p(t)^2}##

Since ##p(t)## has no negative coefficients, it is positive for ##t>0##. So the denominator is positive. The numerator simplifies as

##cp^{\prime}(ct)[p^{\prime}(t)+\frac{t^k}{k!}]-[p^{\prime}(ct)+\frac{(ct)^k}{k!}]p^{\prime}(t)=(c-1)p^{\prime}(ct)p^{\prime}(t)+\frac{t^k}{k!}[cp^{\prime}(ct)-c^kp^{\prime}(t)]##

The first term is positive because ##k>0## and ##c>1##. The second term is then of interest. I believe the second term is always negative for ##t>0## from looking at the powers of ##c##. If you can show that the second term is never more negative than the first term is positive, then you are done.

Hope this helps. This problem bugs me in a good way. Thank you for sharing it. If I get more then I'll post.
 
thank you for your reply! I'll see if I can get any new result.

Another way I've tried is:
1. Still working on the function in my original post, both the numerator(N) and the denominator(D) are positive, and when ##t=0##, both N and D equal to one. So they have the same starting point.
2. When we take the ##i##th derivative, we can see that for all ##t##, the ##i##th derivative of N is always larger than the ##i##th derivative of D. This is hold for all ##i <k##. So N always ''accelerates'' faster than D.
3. When ##i>k##, both the ##i##th derivatives of N and D are zero.

I feel that combining the above facts, we should be able to conclude that this function is monotonically increasing, but I cannot figure out how to prove it in a rigorous way.

Looking forward to more discussion with you!
 
With that line of thinking, consider this:
##\frac{p(ct)}{p(t)}=\frac{p^{\prime}(ct)+\frac{(ct)^k}{k!}}{p^{\prime}(t)+\frac{t^k}{k!}}##
It illustrates your point number 2. But I don't think it immediately finishes things.
 

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