More Logarithims. Is my first method correct?

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The original poster presents a problem involving logarithms, specifically expressing log 2 and log 13.5 in terms of given variables a and b, derived from log 12 and log 18. Additionally, there is a question about the relationship between two logarithmic expressions involving m and n.

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  • The original poster attempts to express log 2 and log 13.5 using logarithmic identities and relationships. Some participants confirm the correctness of the initial method for log 2. There is uncertainty regarding the approach to log 13.5, with suggestions to express it as log(27/2). The original poster also explores the relationship between m and n, questioning the method of using change of base or exponential forms.

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Some participants have confirmed the correctness of the original poster's method for expressing log 2. There is ongoing exploration of how to express log 13.5, with various approaches being discussed. The relationship between m and n is also being examined, with some guidance provided on how to manipulate the expressions.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about the second part of the problem and the relationship between m and n, indicating a need for further clarification and exploration of logarithmic properties.

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If log 12 = a and log 18 = b express log 2 in terms of a and b

Is this method correct?

log 12= 2log2 + log 3 = a
log 2 + 2log 3 = b

log 3= (b-log2)/2
2log2 + (b-log2)/2 = a

(4log2+b-log2)/2 = 2a/2

3log2= 2a-b
log2= (2a-b)/3


and express log 13.5 in terms of a and b, I'm not sure how to attempt this one.

One last one. If loga x =m and logx2a=n, find the relation between m and n.

Could I take the log of the 2nd on in base a

so logan= x^2 or something like that?
 
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Your first method (finding log of 2 ) is correct.
 
Second part: log 13.5 = log(27/2) ?
= log((3^3)/2)
=log(3^3)-log2
=3*log3 - log2
 
Yes, that is correct.
 
lionely said:
If log 12 = a and log 18 = b express log 2 in terms of a and b

Is this method correct?

log 12= 2log2 + log 3 = a
log 2 + 2log 3 = b

log 3= (b-log2)/2
2log2 + (b-log2)/2 = a

(4log2+b-log2)/2 = 2a/2

3log2= 2a-b
log2= (2a-b)/3

and express log 13.5 in terms of a and b, I'm not sure how to attempt this one.

One last one. If loga x =m and logx2a=n, find the relation between m and n.

Could I take the log of the 2nd on in base a

so logan= x^2 or something like that?
For the last one, if you do as you suggest, you get [itex]\displaystyle \ \log_a(n)=\log_a\left( \log_{x^2}(a) \right)\,,\[/itex] which isn't helpful.

Instead, you can use the change of base formula to change the logarithm on the left hand side to base a.

But I would be inclined to write the exponential version of [itex]\displaystyle \ \log_{x^2}(a)=n\,,\[/itex] then take loga of both sides of that result.
 
Ohhhhhh thank you guys!
 
loga x = m and log x2 a = n
How how about this?

(x2)n = a

log a x2 = log a x

Wait no

log a (x^2)n = log a a

so 2nloga x = 1

so in terms of m and n

2mn = 1
 
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lionely said:
loga x = m and log x2 a = n
Do you mean [itex]log_{x^2} a= n[/itex]?

How how about this?

(x2)n = a

log a x2 = log a x

Wait no

log a (x^2)n = log a a

so 2nloga x = 1
If you meant [itex]log_{x^2} a= n[/itex], yes that is true. [itex]log_{x^2} a= n[/itex] is the same as [itex](x^2)^n= x^{2n}= a[/itex] and, taking the logarithm, with respect to a, of that, [itex]2n log_a(x)= 1[/itex].

so in terms of m and n

2mn = 1
Yes, that is correct.

By the way, it is better to post new questions in new threads. Many people, seeing that a question has been answered, will not respond to that thread again.
 
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