MOSFET (common source) current paths

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on understanding the negative voltage gain of a common source MOSFET configuration, exploring the implications of this inversion on current paths and gain calculations. Participants examine the definitions and relationships involved in determining gain, including the roles of transconductance (gm) and load resistance (RL).

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the voltage gain of a common source MOSFET is negative, referencing a schematic and seeking clarity on the current paths for calculating gm, Rin, and Rout.
  • Another participant suggests focusing on signal currents and voltages while ignoring DC components, explaining that the negative sign indicates an inverted signal.
  • A different participant expresses confusion regarding the inversion, noting that a basic common gate design yields a positive gain and questioning why the common source configuration behaves differently.
  • One participant clarifies that while the gain is expressed with a negative sign, the transconductance (gm) itself is not negative, providing an example with a sinusoidal input to illustrate the relationship between input and output signals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the negative gain, with some accepting the inversion as a characteristic of the common source configuration while others seek further clarification on the underlying reasons for this behavior. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conceptual understanding of gain in different configurations.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of gain and the roles of various components in the circuit may not be fully articulated, leading to potential misunderstandings. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical relationships or the implications of different circuit configurations.

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Why is the voltage gain of a common source MOSFET negative?

I have a schematic below and I get the voltage gain to be -gm(ro||Rd). I say that is what I get, but the truth is that is what my professor said we should get. I do not understand why the Gain (Av) is negative. It will go a long way (I think) in also helping me understanding the current path for finding Gm, Rin, and Rout.


Sorry about making the schematic a thumbnail attachment. I know it would be much easier to put it in this workspace, but I do not know how to embed the schematic into this workspace.
 

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Anyone have any ideas? I could really use the help. Thanks.
 
Just consider signal currents and voltages and ignore any DC voltages or currents.

First, the negative sign just means the signal is inverted. I will omit this to make the following clearer.

Then, the definition of gm is
gm = drain current / gate voltage

so, drain current = gm * gate voltage.

Voltage across load resistor RL = drain current * RL

So, Voltage across load resistor RL = gm * gate voltage * RL

Gain = Voltage across load resistor RL / gate voltage = gm * RL

RL means the actual load resistor plus the output resistance of the FET plus any load from the following stage, all in parallel.
 
That is a very good way of putting that information. I appreciate that very much. I will be able to see the MOSFET a little more clearly now. As far as the negative gm, you said that the signal is just inverted. I guess my question is why? If I do a very basic design of the common gate I get a gain of gm*RL (taking ro and gmb out of the equation). That gain is not negative or inverted, so I guess I am still a little confused by the negative sign or inversion. Thank you for your information so far. It is very helpful.
 
The gm isn't negative.

If the input waveform is Vin = sin(wt)
Then the output is {gain} * {-sin(wt)}

So the gain = -sin(wt) * gm * RL / sin(wt)
= - (gm * RL)

Note the negative sign.
 
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